Nah, as a Windows user on the topic of Linux here in the fediverse I’ll be totally honest: I mostly just feel like I’m looking at and a bit wishing I was smart and savvy and motivated enough to be one of the cool kids, but after my last disastrous attempt at switching (because apparently my video card just isn’t supported I guess? whatever, I’m not looking for tech support here) I’m just happy enough to be at the cool punk party instead of predatory frat party (reddit, twitter, take your pick of corporate shithole) where I’m likely to get roofied.
Trying to switch was your problem. Linux is not like Windows or Apple. There’s no marketing department trying to manipulate any brand loyalty. It’s just a tool, and one that has been developed organically to fit in your life as much as you want it. Unlike Windows, Linux does not try to take over your whole computer, it can easily coexist with other systems in a variety of ways whether dual-booting, vms, or live distros.
I like to keep a distro on a usb stick ready wherever I go, in case I ever have to use somebody else’s computer, for instance.
Once accustomed to using an operating system that’s actually trustworthy, any time spent with the other big two feels like being violated. Windows is best kept minimized and quarantined.
It’s Ok. You don’t need to like Linux. (Evil villain accent slips out)-- You vill use Linux! Und you vill like it! Even if you don’t like it. Ooops! Sorry! That just slipped out somehow.
An OS is a tool no more, nothing less. Use what you like and like what you use! And if you decide to try Linux again some day in the future, great! If not, that’s great also!
I think that the motivation is the real key point here.
You could be the best technical person but if you are not motivated, it won’t happen. And that’s fine. When the motivation will be there, Linux nerds will be there to help you.
I put off the switch for ages due to similar reasons, tried once that failed horribly. Later had a motherboard failure and Microsoft showed their whole arse. Reactivated the dual boot, channeled my inner old woman energy, solved the video issue and have been happily tinkering with the smaller issues as they come up. Still playing whack a mole, but now I’m getting things the way I want them, instead of disabling things I’m being told I want by some corporate nutcase.
And hilariously, I am spending less time maintaining Linux than I did for Windows.
I had a much older nvidia card and just had to install the older drivers.
It was with OpenSUSE which has a repo maintained by NVidia directly, and they had generation drivers G03 , G04, G05 etc.
But I did find that while distro hopping that no all linuxes are equal for hardware support.
I had a laptop with a bios bug that would kill Debian based installs, but work fine with fedora or opensuse, and also fine with nixOS. Those distros acknowledge the bug and did a work around.
So if you have interest again, its worth shopping around sometimes.
I was prepared to go through hell when I switched recently, since Windows was making me so mad. Everyone told me my graphics card wouldn’t work, gaming would be hard, etc. Then Mint just worked. 🤷
I did have to troubleshoot why my speakers were muted on startup, but it was worth it. Oh, and volume up defaults to 5% instead of the standard 2%, that took some fixing. Games just work, though.
Mint gets tossed around because it’s pretty forgiving. It just shits me i have to rewrite udev for usb key removal. Its the 21st fucking century, no one “dismounts” usb any more
Kubuntu is another one that just works. Hubs hasn’t has problems and he’s definitely not hardware wired
+1 for Kubuntu just working. I put my grandpa on it and I actually had someone I support for IT install it on their personal computer because they were getting sick and tired of windows.
There is some fuckery I’m not a fan of, but the user will probably just be oblivious+happy it just works.
When I muster up the courage again, Mint is probably the distro I’ll try. I’d tried Pop!_OS because I’d read that it’s very superficially Windows-like as an easing in method, but I think the larger install base of Mint (and thus docs, support, etc) makes it the more appealing choice next go round, if ever that day comes.
I got thrown in the deep end professionally with slackware years ago and i personally think pop is satans taint, so don’t feel bad.
Been playing with mint on media server builds, works pretty well (apart from aforementioned usb caching), just adjusting to the flatpak sandboxing. Also works well with retroarch and my 8bitdos but i haven’t fired up the n64 emu yet.
Daily driver is kubuntu, the biggest issue with both is if you have a mixed os system - the ol “won’t network browse or auth as guest on a win machine share” unless you use cifs.
This feels like a very friendly and supporting comment, so I appreciate it, but I’m not gonna lie, about half of what you said may as well be Korean to me it’s so unfamiliar.
Flatpaks is a software control architecture. So instead of having files and executables able to talk to each other across the OS all willy nilly they’re kept in little pens. This means the file locations change from what you automatically go to look for
8bitdos are retro feel wireless controllers, retroarch is an emulation software package for playing old console games on a pc. I haven’t tested how the nintendo 64 emulator (notoriously hardcore) runs on mint yet.
Daily driver is my default go to pc to use. I run kubuntu on that. If you have windows-based servers or pcs that you’re gonna mix with linux, kubuntu and mint have issues browsing to windows file shares with their default network browsers. You need to use what’s called “cifs” instead, plenty of documentation if you need to poke about.
8bitdos are retro feel wireless controllers, retroarch is an emulation software package for playing old console games on a pc. I haven’t tested how the nintendo 64 emulator (notoriously hardcore) runs on mint yet.
This was the part I knew 😜 On my 3rd 8bitdo controller I think and been emulating games forever. The rest was legitimately foreign to me though, thank you
I fucking love 8bitdos. We have some for the retroarch, and then ones for legitimate systems - the SNES and the Sega Megadrive. I’m just salty I was never able to get my hands on their n64 controllers before they got slapped with copyright.
Nah, as a Windows user on the topic of Linux here in the fediverse I’ll be totally honest: I mostly just feel like I’m looking at and a bit wishing I was smart and savvy and motivated enough to be one of the cool kids, but after my last disastrous attempt at switching (because apparently my video card just isn’t supported I guess? whatever, I’m not looking for tech support here) I’m just happy enough to be at the cool punk party instead of predatory frat party (reddit, twitter, take your pick of corporate shithole) where I’m likely to get roofied.
Trying to switch was your problem. Linux is not like Windows or Apple. There’s no marketing department trying to manipulate any brand loyalty. It’s just a tool, and one that has been developed organically to fit in your life as much as you want it. Unlike Windows, Linux does not try to take over your whole computer, it can easily coexist with other systems in a variety of ways whether dual-booting, vms, or live distros.
I like to keep a distro on a usb stick ready wherever I go, in case I ever have to use somebody else’s computer, for instance.
Once accustomed to using an operating system that’s actually trustworthy, any time spent with the other big two feels like being violated. Windows is best kept minimized and quarantined.
It’s Ok. You don’t need to like Linux. (Evil villain accent slips out)-- You vill use Linux! Und you vill like it! Even if you don’t like it. Ooops! Sorry! That just slipped out somehow.
An OS is a tool no more, nothing less. Use what you like and like what you use! And if you decide to try Linux again some day in the future, great! If not, that’s great also!
I think that the motivation is the real key point here.
You could be the best technical person but if you are not motivated, it won’t happen. And that’s fine. When the motivation will be there, Linux nerds will be there to help you.
You’re a honorary member of the cool kids!
ngl, I actually appreciate this comment, thank you ❤
I put off the switch for ages due to similar reasons, tried once that failed horribly. Later had a motherboard failure and Microsoft showed their whole arse. Reactivated the dual boot, channeled my inner old woman energy, solved the video issue and have been happily tinkering with the smaller issues as they come up. Still playing whack a mole, but now I’m getting things the way I want them, instead of disabling things I’m being told I want by some corporate nutcase.
And hilariously, I am spending less time maintaining Linux than I did for Windows.
PC or laptop? And what video card?
PC, ASRock Z370 Taichi mb with NVidia GTX 1080TI card and 32GB RAM.
Last time I tried install disastrously Lemmy Linux wizards told me that card isnt supported for some reason 🤷
I had a much older nvidia card and just had to install the older drivers.
It was with OpenSUSE which has a repo maintained by NVidia directly, and they had generation drivers G03 , G04, G05 etc.
But I did find that while distro hopping that no all linuxes are equal for hardware support. I had a laptop with a bios bug that would kill Debian based installs, but work fine with fedora or opensuse, and also fine with nixOS. Those distros acknowledge the bug and did a work around.
So if you have interest again, its worth shopping around sometimes.
I was prepared to go through hell when I switched recently, since Windows was making me so mad. Everyone told me my graphics card wouldn’t work, gaming would be hard, etc. Then Mint just worked. 🤷
I did have to troubleshoot why my speakers were muted on startup, but it was worth it. Oh, and volume up defaults to 5% instead of the standard 2%, that took some fixing. Games just work, though.
Mint gets tossed around because it’s pretty forgiving. It just shits me i have to rewrite udev for usb key removal. Its the 21st fucking century, no one “dismounts” usb any more
Kubuntu is another one that just works. Hubs hasn’t has problems and he’s definitely not hardware wired
+1 for Kubuntu just working. I put my grandpa on it and I actually had someone I support for IT install it on their personal computer because they were getting sick and tired of windows.
There is some fuckery I’m not a fan of, but the user will probably just be oblivious+happy it just works.
yeah I fucking hate snaps too
When I muster up the courage again, Mint is probably the distro I’ll try. I’d tried Pop!_OS because I’d read that it’s very superficially Windows-like as an easing in method, but I think the larger install base of Mint (and thus docs, support, etc) makes it the more appealing choice next go round, if ever that day comes.
I got thrown in the deep end professionally with slackware years ago and i personally think pop is satans taint, so don’t feel bad.
Been playing with mint on media server builds, works pretty well (apart from aforementioned usb caching), just adjusting to the flatpak sandboxing. Also works well with retroarch and my 8bitdos but i haven’t fired up the n64 emu yet.
Daily driver is kubuntu, the biggest issue with both is if you have a mixed os system - the ol “won’t network browse or auth as guest on a win machine share” unless you use cifs.
This feels like a very friendly and supporting comment, so I appreciate it, but I’m not gonna lie, about half of what you said may as well be Korean to me it’s so unfamiliar.
All G :)
Flatpaks is a software control architecture. So instead of having files and executables able to talk to each other across the OS all willy nilly they’re kept in little pens. This means the file locations change from what you automatically go to look for
8bitdos are retro feel wireless controllers, retroarch is an emulation software package for playing old console games on a pc. I haven’t tested how the nintendo 64 emulator (notoriously hardcore) runs on mint yet.
Daily driver is my default go to pc to use. I run kubuntu on that. If you have windows-based servers or pcs that you’re gonna mix with linux, kubuntu and mint have issues browsing to windows file shares with their default network browsers. You need to use what’s called “cifs” instead, plenty of documentation if you need to poke about.
This was the part I knew 😜 On my 3rd 8bitdo controller I think and been emulating games forever. The rest was legitimately foreign to me though, thank you
I fucking love 8bitdos. We have some for the retroarch, and then ones for legitimate systems - the SNES and the Sega Megadrive. I’m just salty I was never able to get my hands on their n64 controllers before they got slapped with copyright.
Don’t despair, Vespair,
I like your vibe btw;
Being on the penguin side,
having a sharper mind,
does not garantee.
Let me assure thee,
for plenty of us,
are plenty dumb.