Why you should know: This is important for a majority of Americans, who consume “drugs” like cannabis and psychedelics, because law enforcement will be willingly conscripted into violating your peace and civil rights for religious gain. Drugs are dangerous primarily because LEOs are violent and eager to punish perceived heresies. This effort by the Trump Administration is yet another coup against normal, good people and should be obviously evil to you.

The more you know…

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    Rule 2 violation. Please edit the beginning of the post with “Why you should know.” And remove the unsourced medical advice.

    You can message me when done and I’ll unlock it.

    Your post will be deleted if not corrected in 24 hours.

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    Unless you have a gas chromatography device embedded in everyone’s waste sewage pipe how would that work? You’d only ever know that some people in a neighborhood are doing drugs, you wouldn’t know who or how much and you wouldn’t know who sold it only who consumed it.

    Also a less than one hour old account posting rage bait is suspect as hell.

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      IMO this administration values psychological impact well over function.

      Just making the claim probably accomplishes their goal. Whatever ridiculous half measure they think of to “follow through” is an afterthought

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        Correct. They know they don’t have the means, manpower, or will power to completely subjugate everyone, especially when only %30 of the population (max) actually agrees with what they are doing.

        They are hoping that people will ‘self police’ and comply with whatever bullshit they come up with.

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            This rings more true to me than trying to make people self police. Just make them feel guilty, weak, targeted.

            Rings even more true that they’re just pandering to their base

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      Yeah but you can target enforcement efforts to entire communities with lots of drugs in their wastewater, offer federal grants / money to police departments to hire special officers for this task (I bet a religious school trains this special kind of officer). Many insidious ways to weaponize our sewage.

      fucked up.

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        Get white van.

        Go to rich neighborhood.

        Wear hard hat and hi-vis vest, make fake name badge.

        Tell them you’re from the toilet company and doing a toilet inspection. Will only be a moment, any toilet will do.

        Flush a handful of cold pills and a poppy seed muffin.

        Repeat.

        Rich neighborhood has meth problem.

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      It’s the same way that we monitor infection rates , it’s not individual it’s per region.

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        Region is far too broad for it. They can narrow it down to districts within cities. Your sentiment is still valid, that there’s a lot of people there so they can’t target individuals, or even streets. But they can use that data for increasing police presence. Any data given to fascists is dangerous.

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      I think it would be to narrow down which communities on which to focus more enforcement, but you’re 100% about OP feeling like a ragebait bot. What kind of sn is “solutions”?

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    …I’m fairly certain monitoring waste waters to determine the rate of drug use is a common and widely used procedure. Like, it is happening and it has been happening for a while now.

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      Yeah, they have been monitoring the amount of various drugs for as long as I’ve been paying attention.

      Now the religious leo bullshit, that is entirely expected and I don’t have the words to say how much I hate it. But like i guess it’s just one more front to fight

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        It sounds like he’s using bipartisan rhetoric to justify funding a reasonable strategy. Knowing how many people are taking which psychoactives is important for making policy decisions.

        … An accurate monitoring system is needed to prove the effectiveness of different harm-reduction strategies. People lie on self-surveys.

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    Interesting considering many rural / red areas of the country are also more likely to be on a septic system and therefore can’t have their sewage monitored.

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      Commented above, it’s actually worse for septic tank systems. Your sewage is collected by a business (with your particular address and name associated with billing) and processed at some of the same facilities the monitoring equipment would be setup at. You would have years of drug use stored as evidence (and the tank on your property for further evidence) and they would have a better case of probable cause to investigate your particular residence instead of a county/town wide report.

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        Septic trucks usually stop at a few different houses before they’re full, so the waste from several families ends up all mixed together. You’d have to mandate the collection and analysis of a single home at a time for what you said to be true. It would totally change the logistics of the industry.

        Most people only pump their tanks every few years, so you’d be looking at a much longer history rather than what’s happening right now like you would with sewer water analysis. I just don’t see how data that old would be relevant.

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      And the “good people in red states deserve it for being outnumbered” sentiment from the “fuck you we got ours” states continues.

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          NP! it’s a shit acronym to be honest lol. Someone must get off to it because it’s used everywhere instead of actual titles and/or departments in the states.

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            Nah, the reason is the Byzantine law enforcement structure in the US. You can’t just say “the police” because they have so many officers running around enforcing parts of the law that are not police. FBI, DEA, ATF CBP, ICE and god knows what else are state agents, are involved in law enforcement and are all arguably not police.

            So to get a proper generic term, of course they add another TLA to the alphabet soup.

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      I wouldn’t be too sure of that, could actually be worse for septic system users. I could easily see a system implemented where a septic tank truck has to be “inspected” when it goes to process the waste. If sensors tripped or flagged then they would sequester the employee and his logs which would lead them straight to your house or a few handful. Kinda like how junkyards require identification and address the metals came from in case an investigation needs to be launched about stolen goods.

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        You really think they have the manpower to send someone out to dig up my septic tank?

        They could legally require that I install some kind of device myself … but good luck with that. My system is already technically illegal. What do I care?

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    I feel like this would be illegal in Washington state. We already ruled in our supreme courts that our waste, including what is in our trash cans, is considered private. I guess we get to sue Trump, again, if this happens

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    They’re going to be selective in their sampling. They’re not going to sample rich white neighborhoods.

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    And, of course,

    The administration also aims to apply artificial intelligence technologies to screen cargo for illicit drugs at ports of entry, examine electronic health records to “identify patients at high risk of overdose” and create search algorithms to detect emerging threats, the plan says.

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      I don’t know about you, but I signed up for a govt FOR the people BY the people, not this AI bullshit enslaving us for billionaires.

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    So no stop to criminalizing a biological driven behavior of addiction, sad. Also, no protecting those who supply the demand despite allowing multitudes of other regulated harmful industries.

    This pushes marginalized people to become the middle men AKA drug dealers so they can be in turn locked up for engaging in capitalism. It is a system designed to draw repressed minorities in and further take advantage of them and often destroy them in the process.

    The War on Minorities will continue and everyone who is poor or downtrodden will not get the help they deserve and will instead be abused for daring to exist in an environment designed to cause their misery.

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      Just off the top of my head, blue cities will “skyrocket” in use, giving the feds another reason to harass people there.