• Ex Nummis@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    They can’t pass it. They don’t have majority. Now watch as they win midterms and this gets forgotten completely.

    I mean, why not introduce this bill during any of the 4 years Biden was in office? Because it would’ve been actual policy, and they don’t want that. This is political virtue signaling and nothing more.

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      Now watch as they win midterms and this gets forgotten completely.

      “We can’t pass it. We don’t have supermajority.”

      They get supermajority.

      “We can’t pass it. We don’t have the presidency”

      They win presidential elections.

      “We can’t just pass it. It has to be bipartisan or it’s bad for democracy”

      They lose midterms.

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      I mean, why not introduce this bill during any of the 4 years Biden was in office?

      bCoS wE dOn’T hAvE tHe mAjOrItY!!

      It’s the usual and convenient excuse that Dems and their neoliberal fans love to use. As if not having a majority in either houses ever stopped Republicans! If the Dems are really serious as an opposition, which they aren’t, then they have to make popular choices-- the kitchen table issues. And not only that, actually impeach and imprison Trump. I think America has to go under a fully fledged dictatorship for Americans to actually know when they see one; kinda like Brazil imprisoning Bolsonaro for trying to overthrow the election, and they are not letting up at all. Because Brazil suffered from decades of dictatorship. Americans did not indict and arrest Trump because they are still arguing whether or not he’s a fascist.

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        Meanwhile Trump calls himself a fascist. Lol the country is filled with brainrot. Give them their reality tv or whatever the fuck it is my fellow Americans do all day. Sounds like a completely different language when I’m around my countrymen. Nothing going on in the head.

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      This is specifically an optics move because they can’t pass it. Make headlines about this and a few other progressive moves in the run up to November and gain votes from the “fell for it again” neolib crowd. Then “whoops, 1-3 democrat senators are just real sticks in the mud and won’t go for it so I guess we give up”. Then frustration from the base and they eventually kill whatever momentum because they prove that when it comes to action they almost always cave. Then the gop sweeps up and regresses as much as possible.

      Lieberman, sinema, manchin, now its fetterman. who will be the next “this 1-3 person group personally stops any and all progress in America for like a decade”. The ones that give those dumb neolibs ammo, because of course the party would do so much if it wasn’t for them and you just have to vote more so that the 1-3 person group can become a 3-5 person group

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      Because raising the minimum wage when the economy was on the verge of collapse from COVID shut downs would have been idiotic?

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      So according to this there is absolutely nothing the Dems can do right now that would make you happy.

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        Cleansing itself from corporate corruption and zionism would be a good start.

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        You seem surprised that this is how losing trust works. If people don’t trust you will keep your promises, then it doesn’t matter what you promise them.

        That being said, there are thing they can do that are not just virtue signalling.

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          Democrats cry minimum wage increase if they win.

          Democrats cry legalized weed if they win.

          Democrats cry codified Roe v Wade if they win.

          Democrats cry ending the border wall if they win.

          And then don’t do it when they win. And then get mad that people notice they got swindled.

          Republicans sell lies and promise torture, and they deliver that. Lies and torture.

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        Drop all support for Iran war, pivot fundraising mechanisms away from Israeli influence, use bully pulpits and media to keep Epstein in the news cycle, direct more national funds to local DSA candidates, rotate gerontocracy out of party leadership, etc…

        I don’t really mind them doing stuff like this too, though.

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          At least Republicans are honest in his much they hate citizens at home and abroad. They don’t mask their true intentions of the rich getting richer, the poor getting poorer, and enabling fascists.

          Democrats say they care until they get elected then say they need to work with the Republicans, then go hang out with them as they vote no on any bills that would inspire confirmce in the party or even system as a whole.

          And then their brainwashed fans get mad when you can notice patterns of intentional failure across every single election. Because losing elections to Republicans makes them more money. Winning elections just allows them to vaguely stop some things but never actually make meaningful change.

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        They could stop being Republicans in blue. But that wouldn’t allow them to have more money, so they never will.

        Let me know when they fill any campaign promises from 2016.

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        First day here?

        Most people here it seems would rather be worse off so they can continue to bitch endlessly than have anything good happen.

        Probably why half tell you voting is useless too even as primaries happen and Zoran is already in office doing things they should like.

        That notwithstanding I’d like to see polling on the matter. Right or wrong I would suspect a majority would be against such a drastic increase making this a loser of an issue.

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          Maybe if the Dems actually die something good in power we’d be happier.

          Edit: sarcasm hasn’t been active for months and is just for this, while .world is currently using alt accounts to slander instances and bridge communities. Curious…