You make good points but when politicians don’t listen to people and those people get desperate they also get violent. If politicians didn’t want to get shot at they shouldn’t have created a world in which that sounds like a good idea to damn near half the population. Actions have consequences and the people in charge have been ignoring problems for a long time. Sooner or later that’s going to bite them in the ass in one way or another.
Lol, seek help from whom exactly? Medical professionals in the US are pretty much required to report any individual which may pose a danger to themselves or others to the police. And the US police pretty much shoots first and sprinkles some evidence later.
Who exactly do you think is going to help people who are being radicalized by the complete breakdown of the services meant to help them?
You say “seek help” as if there’s still something there to give it. And even if there was, can one even afford help anymore?
You’re welcome to your opinions on the topic but I don’t think you can refute anything I said. Desperate people often get violent and there are a lot of desperate people out there. That’s just the state of the world.
Hey I won’t say good, but how about indifferent? Crocodile tears about his family do nothing for me when his policies are bound to wreck a large portion of his constituents putting out of work and on the streets, on a systematic scale. Not to even mention the environmental catastrophe he’s invited in, for a meager $2.5M.
Yeah… Indifferent. Numb. Sucks for him. Will suck even worse for everyone else soon.
By passing every shitty policy he can that fucks over everyone but these tech bros. He making housing and feeding people harder and harder. How else can you look at it?
So are you saying the shooter was a bad guy and in the wrong, then? That it’s not okay to shoot at a guy’s kids because you disagree with him over data center policy?
You said “he is killing children right now,” do you think that’s targeted? These guys go “muahaha, I’m going to build a data center and it’ll kill so many children! Through vague and indirect means!”
This is the real world, not Captain Planet and the Planeteers.
If you honestly believe this way, you have been dangerously radicalized.
Sorry, cheering for political violence is just normal now. The right has been pushing and supporting political violence so hard that its…just not radical anymore.
Sure, this time it might not have been somebody on the right, but it doesn’t really matter. Once political violence becomes normal, it becomes normal.
“We have to kill AI artist” keeps getting repeated and whenever someone complains the response is “it’s just a meme bro.” Well, that’s a step along the path that leads here. Repeat a slogan long enough and loudly enough and someone ends up thinking it’s social permission.
Literally never seen “we have to kill AI artists” said in any space on the internet. Surely you could link to an example of this if it keeps getting repeated.
You can definitely find an example of someone saying literally anything on the internet.
Seems like an isolated and niche Twitter/Reddit thing. The vote/like counts that Know Your Meme reports for the posts are very low for those platforms so they would not have appeared on the front page or general feeds, and could not be construed as popular. That Know Your Meme page even shows examples of contradictory posts that push back against it, like:
Saying that I haven’t ever seen it and asking for examples is not contradictory to the fact that you can find an example of one person saying pretty much anything.
You’re reaching pretty far. How are people supposed to act when they ask for more information about something and receive it? They should ignore new information, or they shouldn’t ask in the first place?
OK. So some asshole shoots up a local politician’s house, while he and his eight year old son are inside. Something that:
And the reaction here is ‘good?’
If you honestly believe this way, you have been dangerously radicalized. Get help before you hurt someone.
You make good points but when politicians don’t listen to people and those people get desperate they also get violent. If politicians didn’t want to get shot at they shouldn’t have created a world in which that sounds like a good idea to damn near half the population. Actions have consequences and the people in charge have been ignoring problems for a long time. Sooner or later that’s going to bite them in the ass in one way or another.
The same logic used by people who murder abortion doctors, nice. I’m sure this guy’s eight year old son deserved it, too. Again–seek help.
Lol, seek help from whom exactly? Medical professionals in the US are pretty much required to report any individual which may pose a danger to themselves or others to the police. And the US police pretty much shoots first and sprinkles some evidence later.
Who exactly do you think is going to help people who are being radicalized by the complete breakdown of the services meant to help them?
You say “seek help” as if there’s still something there to give it. And even if there was, can one even afford help anymore?
“Seek help” is the secular version of a passive aggressive “I’ll pray for you.”
You’re welcome to your opinions on the topic but I don’t think you can refute anything I said. Desperate people often get violent and there are a lot of desperate people out there. That’s just the state of the world.
That doesn’t mean we have to cheer for it.
Hey I won’t say good, but how about indifferent? Crocodile tears about his family do nothing for me when his policies are bound to wreck a large portion of his constituents putting out of work and on the streets, on a systematic scale. Not to even mention the environmental catastrophe he’s invited in, for a meager $2.5M.
Yeah… Indifferent. Numb. Sucks for him. Will suck even worse for everyone else soon.
I really wouldn’t care if people were shrugging. It’s the gleeful celebration that’s getting to me.
Without this we would be pretty short on ‘wins’ right now.
I’m so tired of winning.
We could do with fewer “wins” that involve shooting at people and their kids.
Well, they should just back the fuck down.
Their kids should also just back the fuck down if they don’t want to get shot?
Or do their lives only count as his property?
Right, of course. It’s the fault of the guy whose house got shot up and family endangered.
it actually is
He is killing children right now
How?
By passing every shitty policy he can that fucks over everyone but these tech bros. He making housing and feeding people harder and harder. How else can you look at it?
So, that’s a pretty vague “he’s doing something that I consider bad and can be connected in some way to someone eventually dying” criterion.
If that’s all it takes for you to consider it okay to shoot someone’s children we’re in for a pretty bloody time.
I did not say it was okay to kill children.
So are you saying the shooter was a bad guy and in the wrong, then? That it’s not okay to shoot at a guy’s kids because you disagree with him over data center policy?
Was he targeting his kid?
Does that matter to the kid inside the house you’re shooting at?
You said “he is killing children right now,” do you think that’s targeted? These guys go “muahaha, I’m going to build a data center and it’ll kill so many children! Through vague and indirect means!”
This is the real world, not Captain Planet and the Planeteers.
Do you understand the concept of “delayed consequences”?
Sorry, cheering for political violence is just normal now. The right has been pushing and supporting political violence so hard that its…just not radical anymore.
Sure, this time it might not have been somebody on the right, but it doesn’t really matter. Once political violence becomes normal, it becomes normal.
“We have to kill AI artist” keeps getting repeated and whenever someone complains the response is “it’s just a meme bro.” Well, that’s a step along the path that leads here. Repeat a slogan long enough and loudly enough and someone ends up thinking it’s social permission.
Literally never seen “we have to kill AI artists” said in any space on the internet. Surely you could link to an example of this if it keeps getting repeated.
How about “Know Your Memes”?
You can definitely find an example of someone saying literally anything on the internet.
Seems like an isolated and niche Twitter/Reddit thing. The vote/like counts that Know Your Meme reports for the posts are very low for those platforms so they would not have appeared on the front page or general feeds, and could not be construed as popular. That Know Your Meme page even shows examples of contradictory posts that push back against it, like:
Seems pretty overstated.
Deny. Defend. Depose.
Your previous comment was:
That’s the most extreme and instant 180 degree switch in direction I’ve seen in a long time.
Saying that I haven’t ever seen it and asking for examples is not contradictory to the fact that you can find an example of one person saying pretty much anything.
You’re reaching pretty far. How are people supposed to act when they ask for more information about something and receive it? They should ignore new information, or they shouldn’t ask in the first place?
If you think people can find an example of anything then what’s the point in asking for one?
To understand the source where you’re seeing it, and the popularity of it?