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Well, sucks to start a war without the necessary means.
This seems like the thing you check before you attack a world power so you can bully your neighbors and steal their homes, but what do I know?
Americans are running low on jobs, food, money, health care, education, legal due process, civil rights, and now self respect. A lot of which is due to zionists effing everything up. I hope they have zero interceptors and have to pursue peace instead.
The amount of money that we have wasted at the behest of Israel is staggering. Trillions of dollars. Every single dollar stolen from our people, to advance the interests of an ‘ally’ who has literally attacked our soldiers.
It’s not wasted, it’s USAs forward military base, and an invaluable attraction for religious fanatics.
We knew very well that the countries defined by the super powers after WWII would always be in conflict. They were designed that way purposefully, tribes were split apart and mortal enemies were mixed together very carefully to boost conflict.
Like the post office, this government service is costly. BUT it’s only costly for the taxpayers, you see, it’s fantastic business for the military industrial complex and their investors. Guess who provides loans to those same businesses?
It is a mystery, back to work
I plead for journalists to actually inform themselves about the subject before they write… :o
Israel has other ways to defend against Iranian missiles during the war, including via fighter jets, but the interceptors are among the most effective defensive weapons against long-range fire. Its Iron Dome missile defense system is designed to repel more short-range fire.
They speak of Iron Dome (short range, for slow rockets from inside the atmosphere) and THAAD (high altitude, for fast missiles re-entering from space) interchangeably. And they even mention fighter aircraft, which cannot do jack in either case.
The currently relevant scenarios:
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Hezbollah shoots unguided rockets at Israel -> Iron Dome intercepts maybe 15% of them (if the trajectory looks dangerous enough), and this costs about 10 times as much as the whole rocket salvo.
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Iran shoots an IRBM at Israel -> the IRBM splits up in space into cluster munitions -> Israel can intercept the MIRV bus (cluster munition housing), but it’s empty at the time of getting intercepted. Not much point. And doing it would cost at least 10 times as much as the incoming missile did.
A missile defense system, in this case, cannot do jack either. For this type of attack, defense would have a point if one was expecting to get nuked, becuause a nuclear-armed reentry vehicle cannot be made arbitrarily small, and the cost of leaving it un-intercepted would be extremely tragic.
In case of these projectiles, which are conventional and unguided in their final stage, one has to simply absorb the hits. This is the cost of war. And try to find the other guy’s launchers, and try to prevent them from producing more.
And I’m not shedding any tears for Israel in this case. It definitely sucks to be bombed with cluster munitions, but they started this round of fighting, killed most people who they might have negotiated with, and aren’t even new to using forbidden kinds of weapons (e.g. cluster munitions made of white phosphorus).
fighter jets are used to intercept shaheds
Shaheds are drones and not missiles though. That means they are much slower
On the face of it that makes the 10x costs for defence vs attack above look cheap
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You sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind.
Good
Do you want one country to bomb another?
They shouldn’t have fucked around and found out
How many interceptors does Gaza or Lebanon have left?
Are we supposed to feel sorry for them now?
I found the antisemite! /jk
İt is antisemitism to not feel sorry for
That’s okay, Americans will buy more while their infrastructure crumbles.
As long as they don’t have to give up anything basic for their people, like education, or Healthcare… wait…
Wow, they didn’t stop to check that before starting a war? That seems ill advised.
they count on their vasal states to give them more
Remember, USA had to go in, because Israel was going to attack Iran nomatter what.
Oh, right, right, right… that makes sense… right? right? or maybe it is just another truckload of fetid bullshit. now that makes more sense.
Oh no the consequences of my actions!
Well that’s too bad.
Anyways… Anyone have a suggestions what to have for dinner?
Palestinians have amazing gastronomy. learn to cook some of their stuff. I make about 20kg of pittas and hummus every week for a mutual aid and costs me about 8$ per week. their food is amazing and cheap as fuck.
Excellent suggestion. I’ve been meaning to try something new. Thai and Italian is starting to get boring after 20 years.
not gatekeeping, just advice, get the best olive oil you can, ideally from a shop you can taste it. And good zaatar is hard to find, avoid any from Walmart spice rack, chances are they replaced the actual zaatar herb (Hyssop in English) with oregano. Most of their food are cheap ingredients so those two key ingredients are important.
if you try Palestinian cooking with low quality oil and oregano instead of zaatar you’ll get something that tastes nothing like it’s meant to taste that.
Good advice. :)
Luckily its easy for me to avoid Walmart, I think the closest one is several thousand kilometers away. :D And I’m already a snob about olive oil so I got that one covered as well :) IIRC, theres a middle-east specialized spice/food shop fairly near me, I’ll go check their selection.
I’m going for bagels
Bagels, for dinner? Isn’t bagel like a thing you eat with your afternoon coffee, like a donut? I’m fairly ignorant about bagels lol
Don’t let big bagel dictate when you eat them
I think I have never even seen a bagel. Big bagel is very inactive where I live.
You’re missing out. A good freshly made bagel is extremely tasty!
I dont doubt that. I just checked it out and its called (sort of) “water circle” in my language lol
That’s awesome; I like the descriptor! They are made by boiling the dough briefly then baking
I might have to use that from now on. What’s your language if you wouldn’t mind sharing?
It’s basically bread with a hole in the middle, like a donut. Yummy, but nothing spectacular.
Breakfast bagels are pretty good, fried egg, bacon, and a slice of Swiss
I hope the Swiss was consenting to you slicing them up
Anyone have a suggestions what to have for dinner?
Evidently if you put an egg, butter and a slice of american cheese in ramen, its magical tasting or something. Sounds like trash to me but worth a try. Unfortunately this is a NYT recipe and you end up going to archive.ph 3 times to read it (eff you, NYT). but its the most american thing ever.
https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1016583-perfect-instant-ramen
Falafel Gyro.
Halal, of course.
So, basically attacking a country that has been preparing for this war for 20 years might turn out to bite them in the ass?
And this will be used as nothing but an excuse to send Israel and arms manufacturers more money unfortunately.
