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    1 month ago

    Two things that have also failed to manifest, in large part thanks to the prolific state spending following COVID.

    We’re still only 3 days into this war. And yet this is already manifesting right now in real life as we debate it on the internet. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/stock-market-today-dow-sp-500-nasdaq-sink-while-oil-prices-jump-as-iran-attacks-jolt-markets-235000934.html

    Trump’s very obviously not going to do that.

    Yes, agreed, this is very obvious. Because Trump does not have control over the interest rates.

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      1 month ago

      We’re still only 3 days into this war.

      The second big Iran-Israel conflict in less than a year.

      And yet this is already manifesting right now in real life as we debate it on the internet.

      Ah yes. A total nosedive of 0.30%.

      This is the Uno-Reverse “Why you complaining when the DOW is over 50,000!” line. Any token sell-off gets reported on like it’s Black Friday.

      Because Trump does not have control over the interest rates.

      He’s lining up his pick to replace Powell as we speak.

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        5 days ago

        Well, it’s been 4 weeks, so I’m back! Here’s the S&P 500 over the last month, with no end to the Iran war in sight.

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          Fair enough. Hope you made some money on the plunge. I would not have guessed an 8% drop, given the weirdly stubborn endless equities enthusiasm, but here we are.

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            5 days ago

            Yeah 8% over 1 month is pretty huge. Not suggesting this will actually happen, but if the current trend continues at the same rate, it will be a 62% loss over a year.

            A short period of time before the Iran war started, I pulled all my money out of the market and am 100% in CDs now. I didn’t time the top perfectly, but that’s never really my goal anyway, and I’m definitely beating the market right now with modest returns.

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              Not suggesting this will actually happen, but if the current trend continues at the same rate

              It never does. Markets move periodically - early slow change, mid-point rapid change, tail slow change - for the most part. Nevermind that a 62% sell-off raises the question of “Who is selling?” versus “Who is buying?” Dollars are still far too cheap for a plunge that steep.

              A short period of time before the Iran war started, I pulled all my money out of the market and am 100% in CDs now.

              CD rates are shit right now, thanks to low interest rates.

              You’d be better off in utilities or REITs. US energy companies have done very well in the wake of the Hormuz straight closure. I dropped a bunch into United Healthcare recently, thanks to their bargain basement price. Doubt it’ll pay off soon. But I see a healthy upside long term.

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                5 days ago

                CD rates are shit right now, thanks to low interest rates.

                Actually, they are really good. The interests rates have come down a bit from their peak, but aren’t actually low at all compared to the last 10 years. There hasn’t been a better time than the last 3 years to be in CDs since basically the 90s.

                I am mainly in CDs due to external factors that make locked in returns over regular periods more attractive than other options, though.

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                  Actually, they are really good.

                  That’s barely above the Treasury rate.

                  Talk to me when they’re north of 7%, a la 2008