On the Republican side, Ken Paxton and John Cornyn were neck-and-neck and in position for a runoff, according to the poll from the University of Texas’ Texas Politics Project.
Talerico is more electable by the simple fact that he is white and a male. He is inherently a bigger threat to the GOP in Texas.
This is fucking Texas. You don’t want a firebrand because they will never get elected. This seat hasn’t been held by a dem since LBJ for Christs sake.
You want the boring Christian white boy. And then you can build off of that.
Don’t get me wrong. I like Crockett. But in a general election against a GOP party that has held this state in a stranglehold for the last thirty years, I’m voting on electability. Those independent voters are worth a hell of a lot more here.
I love Crockett, I think she is one of the most effective enemies of MAGA, but this is Texas, and we have to be realistic.
The Dems have been getting closer and closer with each election, and a Texas seat seems more vulnerable than ever. With the right candidate, it may be possible to finally flip one, but they have to be super strategic. It’s just a fact that someone like Talarico is going to have wider appeal to the entire state that a loud black lady.
Nah, Texans don’t like cowards. A firebrand is exactly the person needed. Anyways, picking candidates on electability is exactly what primaries are for. If you can’t win a primary, you aren’t exactly electable, are you?
Being able to win a primary does not equate to be electable. It just shows party preference. To be elected the candidate needs to be preferred by all voters.
Smart parties pick the best endgame player.
Like a sports team winning early games in a national competition, that doesn’t mean they are good enough to walk away the champions.
Overall fitness, excellence, and likability must be considered vs the other opponents on the final ballot.
I’ve already voted for Beto multiple times. On the political scale the man was luke warm and because of ego and funding, we got jack shit. Give me the most milquetoast dem candidate possible so I can actually have a chance here. Beto fucked up one interview. Just one. And we are still recovering. I’ll take the most basic ass bitch dem over “revolutionary” any day of the week in regards to Texas politics. Because the boring one may actually have a chance. This is not a paradigm changing situation. Hell I’d take newsom over here in Texas. And I fucking hate that guy.
Beto was never viable (anti-guns, doesn’t know how to talk about religion). I also found him repulsively fake.
Talerico is an authentic, sincere left wing Christian. He’s a threat to the entire Republican order. If he says he’s not progressive it’s to distance himself from pronoun weirdos.
But this one person I know said he thinks he’d like to have a beer with beto. I didn’t realize that was something people really considered when choosing who to support - I thought it was metaphorical.
If he says he’s not progressive it’s to distance himself from pronoun weirdos.
Average reactions to Beto were closer to mine. He lost fairly badly. Like I said, his anti-gun stance was too strong. Analogously, veganism is morally superior to carnivory, but a vegan isn’t going to win Texas.
The world is on fire. Human civilization is ending. I could not care less about culture war crap.
Picking candidates in a primary is not about electability. It’s about party representation. And it takes more than that to win an election, especially in Texas. This isn’t a swing state where we get that sort of luxury. This is a fight where it’s a 60/40 split in an average year. Cross over votes and mobilizing the independent demographic is our only chance.
If Crockett gets the nomination, I have low expectations of a dem victory. I see better odds where we can pick up the disgruntled Christian old school Republican vote. And talerico can do that. Crockett cannot.
This is a fight where it’s a 60/40 split in an average year.
Last election for Cornyn was 54% vs 44% (against a woman). And two years ago was 53% vs 45% (against a black man). Crocket has far more appeal and name recognition than either of the previous races. Before that was 2018, which was 51% vs 48% against someone who suggested going door to door to get guns from people. You have to go back over a decade to get a race that was such a landslide, which was against a white guy who came in 4th place in a house primary two years before and doesn’t even have a picture on wikipedia.
My point stands. 10% loss against a woman. 9% against a black man. Let’s take those 2018 numbers and not shoot ourselves in our own foot by doubling down. The electorate already spoke. If Beto had the closest numbers despite his shittery, let’s get a more viable candidate without the sexist and racist baggage. I apologize, but it seems obvious to me.
Once again. This is Texas. I am perpetually disappointed by my state. But the numbers don’t lie when it comes to a general election.
Talerico is the furthest thing from a coward. Every clip of him is awesome. I wouldn’t be surprised if the GOP are voting against him in the primary because he can actually talk to Texans.
50% of Americans are led by cynical religious zealots. Someone like Talerico is the only way to communicate with them at all, which is why he represents a huge threat to the status quo.
Talerico is more electable by the simple fact that he is white and a male. He is inherently a bigger threat to the GOP in Texas.
This is fucking Texas. You don’t want a firebrand because they will never get elected. This seat hasn’t been held by a dem since LBJ for Christs sake.
You want the boring Christian white boy. And then you can build off of that.
Don’t get me wrong. I like Crockett. But in a general election against a GOP party that has held this state in a stranglehold for the last thirty years, I’m voting on electability. Those independent voters are worth a hell of a lot more here.
On the other hand, appealing to the center hasn’t been working for Democrats lately. If Crockett energized the base, the numbers could be there.
Plus a lot of us aren’t comfortable perpetuating the racism/sexism by caving to it.
I’ll vote for either candidate, but this idea that it’s obvious Crockett could never win doesn’t sit right with me.
I love Crockett, I think she is one of the most effective enemies of MAGA, but this is Texas, and we have to be realistic.
The Dems have been getting closer and closer with each election, and a Texas seat seems more vulnerable than ever. With the right candidate, it may be possible to finally flip one, but they have to be super strategic. It’s just a fact that someone like Talarico is going to have wider appeal to the entire state that a loud black lady.
Nah, Texans don’t like cowards. A firebrand is exactly the person needed. Anyways, picking candidates on electability is exactly what primaries are for. If you can’t win a primary, you aren’t exactly electable, are you?
Being able to win a primary does not equate to be electable. It just shows party preference. To be elected the candidate needs to be preferred by all voters.
Smart parties pick the best endgame player.
Like a sports team winning early games in a national competition, that doesn’t mean they are good enough to walk away the champions.
Overall fitness, excellence, and likability must be considered vs the other opponents on the final ballot.
No, let’s pick the most polarizing figure we can find and try to win Texas that way.
I’ve already voted for Beto multiple times. On the political scale the man was luke warm and because of ego and funding, we got jack shit. Give me the most milquetoast dem candidate possible so I can actually have a chance here. Beto fucked up one interview. Just one. And we are still recovering. I’ll take the most basic ass bitch dem over “revolutionary” any day of the week in regards to Texas politics. Because the boring one may actually have a chance. This is not a paradigm changing situation. Hell I’d take newsom over here in Texas. And I fucking hate that guy.
Beto was never viable (anti-guns, doesn’t know how to talk about religion). I also found him repulsively fake.
Talerico is an authentic, sincere left wing Christian. He’s a threat to the entire Republican order. If he says he’s not progressive it’s to distance himself from pronoun weirdos.
But this one person I know said he thinks he’d like to have a beer with beto. I didn’t realize that was something people really considered when choosing who to support - I thought it was metaphorical.
Am I a pronoun weirdo?
Average reactions to Beto were closer to mine. He lost fairly badly. Like I said, his anti-gun stance was too strong. Analogously, veganism is morally superior to carnivory, but a vegan isn’t going to win Texas.
The world is on fire. Human civilization is ending. I could not care less about culture war crap.
Picking candidates in a primary is not about electability. It’s about party representation. And it takes more than that to win an election, especially in Texas. This isn’t a swing state where we get that sort of luxury. This is a fight where it’s a 60/40 split in an average year. Cross over votes and mobilizing the independent demographic is our only chance.
If Crockett gets the nomination, I have low expectations of a dem victory. I see better odds where we can pick up the disgruntled Christian old school Republican vote. And talerico can do that. Crockett cannot.
Last election for Cornyn was 54% vs 44% (against a woman). And two years ago was 53% vs 45% (against a black man). Crocket has far more appeal and name recognition than either of the previous races. Before that was 2018, which was 51% vs 48% against someone who suggested going door to door to get guns from people. You have to go back over a decade to get a race that was such a landslide, which was against a white guy who came in 4th place in a house primary two years before and doesn’t even have a picture on wikipedia.
My point stands. 10% loss against a woman. 9% against a black man. Let’s take those 2018 numbers and not shoot ourselves in our own foot by doubling down. The electorate already spoke. If Beto had the closest numbers despite his shittery, let’s get a more viable candidate without the sexist and racist baggage. I apologize, but it seems obvious to me.
Once again. This is Texas. I am perpetually disappointed by my state. But the numbers don’t lie when it comes to a general election.
Talerico is the furthest thing from a coward. Every clip of him is awesome. I wouldn’t be surprised if the GOP are voting against him in the primary because he can actually talk to Texans.
The GOP actually supported Crockett as a winnable opponent.
Exactly.
50% of Americans are led by cynical religious zealots. Someone like Talerico is the only way to communicate with them at all, which is why he represents a huge threat to the status quo.