Can you show me proof of that? Mila Antanova was in early 20s, not below 20 I forgot the age of that nuclear physicist, but there is zero proof of him sleeping with minors.
Besides, I recently got heavily downvoted on Lemmy for saying that tall grown men look weird when dating women that I cannot tell if they’re over 18, but my opinion on the matter aside, objectively he did not really break any laws, besides marriage.
but there is zero proof of him sleeping with minors.
Not yet…
Forgive me for jumping to a conclusion like this, but lots of the proof still remains buried, obscured, and redacted, and any guy who willingly associates with Epstein for an “affair” is automatically a suspect in my eyes.
I think its perfectly plausible for bill gates to be a decent human being while also participating in sex with Russian womens. And until proof says otherwise, like all persons, we shouldn’t be making up stories.
if he was a decent human being he’d drop 90% of his wealth out of a helicopter and wouldn’t be asking a notorious sex trafficking criminal for advice on ways to surreptitiously slip his wife drugs for an STI he got having sex with other people.
just to set aside for a moment the possibility that the people he had sex with were coerced or children
I don’t think asking people to dump all of their money is the line that differentiates people from being good people and bad people. It’s like good people do bad things sometimes doesn’t mean we shouldn’t forgive or understand. Obviously the shit with his wife is not very good, but as it stands hasn’t he done some good? Either way probably best to judge on what we know and not the speculation as that would just lead to diluting the real story for the speculative lol
asking billionaires, not people in general. if you made a million dollars a year it woud take you more than a thousand years to become a billionaire once you factor in living expenses. you can’t be a good person and hoard that much wealth
Ohh, so he was one of the innocent people who just happened to be friends with Epstein. Here I am assuming a guy running a pedophile island wouldnt just have normal friends like Bill Gates, where they played bridge and discussed things like pharmaceuticals, on his down days of trafficking women.
Responding with “once you get puberty you’ll start to understand” to someone who thinks you are defending a pedophile probably ain’t the wisest move though. A joke, maybe but don’t expect that shit to land well at all.
In the US (where Bill Gates lives), we don’t generally consider women to be women until they are of age. “Underage women” is an oxymoron. They are appropriately referred to children, girls, or teens.
Assumptions can be dangerous and make you look like an idiot. There has been zero proof that Gates was involved with minors and I’m not going to go that far until there is at least something pointing to it besides the fact that he met with Eipstein.
Epstein was more than a child trafficker. He dealt in information, blackmail material and financial… “services”, as I understand it. Having been had contact with him isn’t immediate proof of any specific crime, because his portfolio is so wide, and also because I imagine a snake like him will have slithered into many places the high and wealthy congregate.
The question then is the extent and nature of the connections. On one hand, I’m all for being cautious about assuming guilt.
On the other, this is a billionaire we’re talking about. I find myself less charitable with good will when it comes to parasites of that caliber.
contact with him isn’t immediate proof of any specific crime
And this is why we have courts and rule of law and not mob rule. The mob clearly is ready to hang him. And if he is guilty, he should.
But at the moment, there is no clear proof that I’m aware of.
So it’d be fucking nice if people would take a damn step back and concentrate on supporting the rule of law and getting this evidence into courts so that we can have the best possible chance of convicting and punishing the guilty.
Because let’s be clear: I support punishment for all who are guilty.
But mob rule is what the fascists want and thrive on. Trump says “X is guilty” and the fucking cult goes nuts and presses for their death.
I suggest you actually do some deeper reading into this whole mess. I got too bored and the image completely changed for me. It’s way deeper and and Occam’s razor is not going to work here. Eipstein really did a lot of blackmailing, it was already proven that some emails were straight up fabricated.
That aside - it is now known who the two women were, and Bill did not met them thru Eipstein, neither were they underage. The whole Eipstein mess actually came after these two women.
To prison!
For sleeping with women?
For (likely) sleeping with very young girls.
Jumping to conclusions isn’t wise
EDIT: I goofed and thought the person above answered to me
Can you show me proof of that? Mila Antanova was in early 20s, not below 20 I forgot the age of that nuclear physicist, but there is zero proof of him sleeping with minors.
Besides, I recently got heavily downvoted on Lemmy for saying that tall grown men look weird when dating women that I cannot tell if they’re over 18, but my opinion on the matter aside, objectively he did not really break any laws, besides marriage.
I’m pretty sure that dosing someone unknowing with medicine is a crime, daterapedrug or not really doesn’t matter.
Not yet…
Forgive me for jumping to a conclusion like this, but lots of the proof still remains buried, obscured, and redacted, and any guy who willingly associates with Epstein for an “affair” is automatically a suspect in my eyes.
I think its perfectly plausible for bill gates to be a decent human being while also participating in sex with Russian womens. And until proof says otherwise, like all persons, we shouldn’t be making up stories.
if he was a decent human being he’d drop 90% of his wealth out of a helicopter and wouldn’t be asking a notorious sex trafficking criminal for advice on ways to surreptitiously slip his wife drugs for an STI he got having sex with other people.
just to set aside for a moment the possibility that the people he had sex with were coerced or children
I don’t think asking people to dump all of their money is the line that differentiates people from being good people and bad people. It’s like good people do bad things sometimes doesn’t mean we shouldn’t forgive or understand. Obviously the shit with his wife is not very good, but as it stands hasn’t he done some good? Either way probably best to judge on what we know and not the speculation as that would just lead to diluting the real story for the speculative lol
asking billionaires, not people in general. if you made a million dollars a year it woud take you more than a thousand years to become a billionaire once you factor in living expenses. you can’t be a good person and hoard that much wealth
Though it is speculation, I think he is most likely guilty. We gotta wait and see.
Ohh, so he was one of the innocent people who just happened to be friends with Epstein. Here I am assuming a guy running a pedophile island wouldnt just have normal friends like Bill Gates, where they played bridge and discussed things like pharmaceuticals, on his down days of trafficking women.
The more we advance in this whole mess the more he is confessing. It’s not long before we learn he abused kids. Put him in prison
You’re gross
It’s normal if it’s gross for you, these things come with time; once you get puberty you’ll start to understand
EDIT: Do I really need the /j here?
You know that is not what the user meant.
That is literally why my comment is a joke, I did not argue the comment, I joked about it.
To elaborate: I do not get insulted about things I’m sure they’re wrong about (about me), it just makes me laugh
Responding with “once you get puberty you’ll start to understand” to someone who thinks you are defending a pedophile probably ain’t the wisest move though. A joke, maybe but don’t expect that shit to land well at all.
I think the assumption is that they were underage, trafficked women.
Stop calling them “underage women”. Adopting the apologist language used by the news media is what the pedo cult wants.
The correct term is children
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Assuming you really want to know …
In the US (where Bill Gates lives), we don’t generally consider women to be women until they are of age. “Underage women” is an oxymoron. They are appropriately referred to children, girls, or teens.
Ah. Thanks; I was genuinely curious. So, people feel the term is overly PC and sanitizes the topic. I get it, I suppose.
You never answered my question.
Nah you’re fucking gross dude.
Assumptions can be dangerous and make you look like an idiot. There has been zero proof that Gates was involved with minors and I’m not going to go that far until there is at least something pointing to it besides the fact that he met with Eipstein.
I believe Trump’s made similar claims. Good thing the files are full of redactions.
Epstein was more than a child trafficker. He dealt in information, blackmail material and financial… “services”, as I understand it. Having been had contact with him isn’t immediate proof of any specific crime, because his portfolio is so wide, and also because I imagine a snake like him will have slithered into many places the high and wealthy congregate.
The question then is the extent and nature of the connections. On one hand, I’m all for being cautious about assuming guilt.
On the other, this is a billionaire we’re talking about. I find myself less charitable with good will when it comes to parasites of that caliber.
And this is why we have courts and rule of law and not mob rule. The mob clearly is ready to hang him. And if he is guilty, he should.
But at the moment, there is no clear proof that I’m aware of.
So it’d be fucking nice if people would take a damn step back and concentrate on supporting the rule of law and getting this evidence into courts so that we can have the best possible chance of convicting and punishing the guilty.
Because let’s be clear: I support punishment for all who are guilty.
But mob rule is what the fascists want and thrive on. Trump says “X is guilty” and the fucking cult goes nuts and presses for their death.
Can our side NOT be like that? Please?
Exactly. Blackmail.
I suggest you actually do some deeper reading into this whole mess. I got too bored and the image completely changed for me. It’s way deeper and and Occam’s razor is not going to work here. Eipstein really did a lot of blackmailing, it was already proven that some emails were straight up fabricated.
That aside - it is now known who the two women were, and Bill did not met them thru Eipstein, neither were they underage. The whole Eipstein mess actually came after these two women.
I agree. Just clarifying why I think people are calling for him to go to prison.