I (23M) started therapy today, hooray!
Only problem is, my family is too goddamn spicy. Once I got into my brother’s (25M) increasingly homicidal fantasies and animal killings, she stopped me before I mentioned the threats he made to kill people and told me that she is a mandated reporter and has an obligation to report certain situations to the authorities.
I think adding police to the equation will make everything worse and immediately paint a target on my back because I am the only one who would ever disclose the violence that happens under this roof. It might result in me being homeless if I have to flee for my life. I live in Ohio and it’s the middle of winter, so not a great start.
I wanted to work with a therapist because I grew up in this place and it traumatized me so badly that I’m scared of leaving this dump (not to mention, I have disabilities now that make that difficult). How much will I have to tiptoe around here? Is merely being afraid that someone will use violence against me reportable? What about if they fantasize about murder and domestic terrorism? What about violent crimes that they committed in the past? Or specific threats in the present?
Is therapy just not the right fit for this kind of thing? Did I end up with a heavy duty “fuck you” problem and therapy is just for “I feel sad sometimes” problems? It feels like bullshit to have to self-censor so much just because things were harder for me. How is throwing cops at the problem supposed to help when there is no universal basic sustenance or housing for the victims to escape to?
What are your experiences with mandated reporting, and how do you avoid triggering it?
Yes you did, your advice was basically, your brother is a serial killer and you should let the therapists contact authority, and you deserve better. How is that not a thoughts and prayers message.
First of all reading and watch documentaries about serial killer makes you the reverse of an expert, you are now filled with strong bias on serial killer profile, in dramatized version.
Second you don’t know him or the situation he is facing, his asking for advice on how to stop his therapist to go to the authorities because that would according to HIM put HIM in a much worse situation.
“Was basically” and then make a poor summery.
Yeah what do scientists and experts know about it anyway, right? With their dramatized scientific papers and everything. I bet any socccermom on Facebook knows better, right? *big_sigh
I don’t need to know him or the situation he is facing, all I know is that he’s in a dangerous and toxic environment and he needs to get out ASAP. And I know his brother is a high risk for causing harm to him, animals and other people. So anything is better than to stay in this situation. A therapist is trained for these situations. The authorities too. Protecting such a harmful person is a danger to society. You don’t want to be in a situation where the guy killed someone (or you) while you could have done something, like expose his issues and protect yourself.
But if you know so much better, what are your qualifications?
You’re not a scientist or an expert, they went to study the issue, several years. Do you think you can replace their knowledge with dramatized books or documentaries?
Can a person be abusive, psychopath, narcissist one or the other or in combination without being a serial killer, probably right? and what is the ratio of people who are one of those or a combination that is not a serial killer?
Is it 1/10, 1/100, 1/1000… you don’t know, because you are not an expert. You can be a serial who has not demonstrated any of those traits, because you can be a high functioning psychopath and people don’t know you are one.
You know who is an expert on when the police should be called on a potential serial killer? Probably the mental health specialist the OP is going to for therapy! Get a grip man killing animals and fantasizing about killing the family you live with only leads one place.
Dude you still don’t understand the issue, it’s not illegal to fantasize about killing someone, you can’t put someone in prison for fantasizing, which means the guy will be out on the street and maybe want to murder the person that was responsible for him ending up in a police investigation. Do you think the police will give some one around the clock protection?
And no a psychiatrist is not an expert on when to call the police or when not to, they are mandated to do it if they SUSPECT a serious crime, it’s the law otherwise they will lose their license to practice.
Jesus fucking Christ
Do you even hear yourself mate. When someone is extremily violent and makes death threats, they definitely need attention from the authorities.
You claim a psychiatrist or therapist isn’t qualified to see when a person is mentally ill on a level of being a threat to society. You claim medical papers are dramatized books. Are you just trolling us or are you actually that deranged? Maybe get some therapy yourself mate.
Dude how many people die everyday because their abusive SO kills them, even though they have been in contact with authorities? Happens everyday, everyday some dies because the cops can’t do shit.
What you don’t understand is: I’m not saying don’t call the cops, what I’m saying is you are saying stupid fucking shit, that isn’t help full at all. YOU don’t know his reality, he obviously don’t want to involve polis, because he’s afraid, you get it? It’s not about society, it’s about him. A common trait with serial killers is that they lack the feeling of sympathy, are you a serial killer. Do you have hard feeling what others might be feeling, and hard time understanding why they don’t want to involve the police? Why is that?
You’re saying it’s useless to call them as they can’t do shit. You’re basically saying there’s nothing you can do, so just let it play out.
Ah ok. Luckily you’re saying wise and helpful stuff. Ffs
Clearly you do somehow, even though you read the post so poorly you thought he was a she.
Yeah, I get it, fear can prevent you from doing the right thing. That’s why people have trouble leaving cults too. Doesn’t change the fact he should get out of this situation ASAP and let his therapist do her job.
What?!? xD why would you say that? I literally gave the advice to get out of the situation ASAP and let the professionals do their job, to make sure he’s safe. That’s why you suspect I’m a serial killer without empathy? While you say authorities can’t do anything, professionals don’t know anything, he should stay with his violent and dangerous brother out of empathy. Do you also believe the authorities are lizard people or something?
You definitely need therapy mate. You’re beyond fucked up. Please go talk to someone.
I’m not going to continue replying your rage bait bullshit, you’re just a troll, or at least I hope you are because if you’re serious, you definitely need help. I really feel sorry for you. Best of luck.
I can’t anymore, he clearly states he can’t get out… I’ll leave it at that
I’m pretty sure your just rage baiting, but in case ur really that dense is your argument that if they get called on because they currently kill animals and fantasize about moving on to humans, u better not tattle or they will kill you? Isn’t that kind of proving the point that maybe police should get involved because it’s a matter of time until they commit murder? And if a psychiatrist isn’t the mental health specialist on that then who the fuck is?
Yes I’m not arguing against it, but this isnt that type of thread. If you had an inch of sympathy with the OP, you would not write advice like that, IT’S REAL LiFE, you can potentially fuck someone’s life up, it’s not a fucking game. It’s not about what’s best for society, It’s OP asking advice to get out of a potential bad situation, either give some proper advice that is actually help full, or tell us about that you watch serial documentaries and that makes you good at spotting serial killers, like wtf? What a lack of respect…
Get bent. I knew a kid that threatened to shoot up 26 individuals and had firearms. My best bud called the cops and they intervened. Mind you this kid was out friend and we knew he had issues and was spiraling. He did not get in any real shit for that but later got felony charges and can no longer own guns legally. Yes when people make threats and have the means to follow through , and is killing animals for pleasure something has to be done. This is real life, not a fucking joke and op needs to hear this before they end up a potential victim. There is a reason their asking for advice and going to therapy and it’s because their in a dangerous situation that needs rectified. And fyi I do not watch serial killer documentaries, honestly not huge on TV in general. I’m beginning to wonder if you identify with the person in question having reacted the way you have, or maybe your in a similar boat to op and afraid to take the first step. Trust me things can be made better if you are willing to try to do something about it, perhaps if the brother gets help sooner than later they may never go down a dangerous path. Either way intervention has to happen.