Edit to add my opinion so I’m not just replying “I agree” to 90% of comments. I think it should be legal, properly regulated, taxed and viewed as a profession. I haven’t personally engaged in it but I have no moral objection to it. I do hate the common sentiment that it was the individual’s “only option” though.

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        *economic organization

        But the idea is that, under capitalism you have to work in order to survive. Under a different system you work to benefit society, by your survival is otherwise assured.

        Really depends on how it’s organized of course. Hard to say now since there is such a death grip on keeping capitalism for some reason.

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        Humans have a natural drive to work for the betterment of their community. Capitalism suppresses that drive by teaching them to sell their bodies and time. Give them a choice, and enough will choose to work that society can survive. Those who don’t want to work are often sick in some way and need society’s support. There’s no such thing as laziness.

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          I promise I’ve worked with horrifically lazy people, proud of their lack of work ethic and their ability so skirt tasks or dump them on others. I’m glad you have that much faith in the populace. In my experience, I think a large chunk of people would abuse a trust based system.

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            Have You ever wondered why they act that way? It may not just be as you assume, that they’re terrible people, but instead that all empathy and sense of community has been ground out of them by a system that punishes you for thinking of others.

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              Thats a pretty idealistic thought, not one realistically based though. You’re lucky to have never met a lazy person or been forced to pick up their slack.

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                Is it? Or is it pragmatic rather than pessimistic?

                People dont just neatly fit into boxes, to be dismissed as having singular motivation that is all completely surface level. Every single person you meet and deal with will have a complex and unique history that defines them as a person, just like you. And just like you, they may dismiss you as just some simple-minded fool who does things for obvious reasons.

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                  I think you need to interact with more people and learn what pragmatic means. The statement laziness doesn’t exist is absolutely out of touch with reality.

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                    Then it’s a good thing I’m an antirealist. We shouldn’t be pressuring others to believe in reality, it just reinforces bigotry and oppression.