• SupraMario@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      “think of the children”…cause that’s never been the dumbest fucking reason to do something…

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        No, the point is that they are made specifically to make children addicted. It’s not the “think of the children” hoax like for ex. videogames because (most of) them are not made to be addictive or to appeal specifically to children, actually that’s the exact opposite most of the times. In other hand, vapes are specifically built and engineerd to be addictive to children even without using nicotine or psychoactive substances. Just like it should be illegal to put high amounts of sugar of corn syrup in sweets

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          They are not made specifically to make chicken addicted. Some companies did, but vaping itself wasn’t made to get children addicted… It is addictive, and not as smelly, and doesn’t make you cough your tar covered lungs out, so kids who can get their hands on them get addicted.

          Kids will still get them, but now they’ll have more questionable ingredients, they’ll be more expensive, and they’ll be funding organized crime. Good job government.

          Teach your kids about the importance of saying no, and let them make their own mistakes every now and then. Vaping is hardly the worst thing they can get hooked on.

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            From what I’ve read, there are 2 chemical-kinds of nicotene, 1 of which is called “freebase” nicotene, which hits quicker, & therefore is more addictive.

            Yes, cigarette-tobacco has been bred ( if not engineered ) to increase the freebase nicotene ( can’t remember which company it was that got caught on that, their actions demonstrating that it’s a drug they were optimizing-for ),

            & vape-companies intentionally engineer their products to be as addictive as they can be.

            Children don’t have fully-myelated-brains ( until about 21, which is why outlawing drinking until 21 so drastically reduces slaughter of lives on the roads ), & holding that they just have to “be more adult” when their brains literally can’t be, is either denial or machiavellianism ( depends on the person’s motivation ), AND victim-blaming, in my view.


            What Mexico’s doing, effectively, is GIVING a chunk of their economy to the drug-cartels.

            Which is idiocy.

            Decriminalize everything, tax it to death, do whatever, but we need to be gutting, not increasing, organized-crime’s economy.


            Nicotene kills the nervous-system of the gut, & it’s likely doing the same kind of damage to the rest of the nervous-system ( Dr. Gershon’s incorrectly-named book “The Second Brain”, about the nervous-system of the gut, which is the original brain! )


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              Freebase was the standard in Vapes for many years. Vaping liquids with freebase nicotine will keep your nic level up for the day. There is not a kick involved. This is different with nic salts. They behave like the nicotine in cigarettes.

              Also current vapes have a much higher percentage of nicotine. When I vaped (comming from smoking), I mixed my liquids with 6 mg/ml. I think the standard today is 20 mg/ml. That is the reason, kids like them. Not the taste. You have much smaller clouds, than in the previous generations, but the high doses of nic salt give you a real nice kick.

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          9 hours ago

          Lol Roblox??? And every damn gatcha game out there.

          Think of the children bullshit line…vices exist, and adults make adult choices… because they’re adults. Prohibition has never caused black markets ever…