Sony’s modern OLEDs are sick. There are a few between my family, and they have the best processing I’ve seen, they decode massive bluray rips no problem, and native options for a clean ad-free UI.
Why TF aren’t people buying them?
Probably because they’re quite expensive
TV
2026
Honestly, don’t remember the last time I watched TV
I avoid Sony purely because they push exclusives on consoles. Totally unrelated but I guess that’s one of the negatives of being a big brand.
I haven’t bought anything from Sony since the root kit fiasco.
I first read it as TLC. You mean the TVs will play nothing but low-grade reality shows?
The verge is a garbage paywall site now
Dammit. I’ve had an LG plasma for the last 15, and it looks like I’ll have to get that Sony well before I’m ready for it.
I used to have a TCL soundbar.
In addition to being extremely mediocre, it promised to integrate with my WiFi so that music could be airplayed through it. After adding it to my WiFi, it still broadcast the open ‘setup’ WiFi network.
If you joined the setup network, you could SSH into the soundbar as root without a password and dump the dhcp.conf file, which would give anyone access to my home WiFi network. Other TCL models also allowed for root via SSH, but used 12345678 as the password. A skilled hacker could just bot these via wardriving and turn them into network listeners.
It may have still broadcast the setup network because I blocked the device from accessing the internet. I only ever went poking around on it because I noticed that the setup network kept getting set to the same channels as my home network and it was causing interference. I eventually just factory reset the device so it had no information on it at all.
After the umpteenth time of not being found by my TV, a hard reset killed it. Just got stuck booting and never recovered.Anyway - crap brand. Sad day for Sony TV fans.
TCL might not make a good sound bar,but I’ve never seen a bad TCL tv. Are they as nice as Sony? Hell no.
Do they cost 1/4 the price? Yep.
Edit: also, PlayStation is the only profit maker for Sony.
And TCL has been making displays for all of the major OEMs for years now.
Playstation is nowhere near the only profit maker for Sony https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/pdf/25q2_sony.pdf (from https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/archive.html)
Make a dumb tv and I’ll be a buyer
Can’t you just use any modem TV and not hook it up to the interwebs?
I usually do this but would still prefer a dumb TV, mainly to reduce the possible points of failure
I believe more and more TVs require network connection for setup.
They will still have those garbage “smart” menus.
What are garbage smart menus that can’t be avoided?
I’m not being funny. I’m still on a Panasonic last gen thin plasma FHD but thinking of upgrading to a LG C5 OLED when they are on final sale when this year models are rolling out. I’m only watching movies through the box connected to it.
Yeah, a dream: dumb TV with awesome modern panel and range of connectivity ports like HDMI, DP, DP over USB-C, composite, scart
I just want one DP input and I’ll decide how to split my inputs with an outside box. The TV should only decide how to show the picture. I don’t need your YouTube app
Look for “commercial display panels.” They’re 3-4 times the price of a smart TV, but they are just basic TVs. If you find a bank, hospital, clinic, or any other privacy focused business that’s going out of business you can generally pick those used displays up pretty cheap.
ive heard: buy one made for business
there’s a lot more options there, that dont have ads, etc
So Sony is now the new RCA. This is a new low for the company. I can’t believe that they are gone just like that.
Well, their TV brand is gone. Their headphones are still the top tier of consumer stuff and price-performance king for studio headphones
Being the best doesn’t mean they’re selling well… I assume you’re meaning 7506s? So yeah they’re awesome yet dirt cheap, I highly doubt they will keep Sony floating in the long term.
The over the ear noise cancelling one’s are amazing as well
Idk if I used a really bad set of wh1000xm4s but they sucked. Too bassy and muddy. Like more than they should have. I hope their studio headphones are much better in that regard.
Maybe it’s just because I’m an audio engineer so I was able to EQ them to my taste, but I love my WH-1000XM4 cans. But yeah, their studio cans are both top tier and dirt cheap. MDR-7506, they’re like $80 and generally sound like a million bucks because they’re used in basically every single recording studio as reference headphones.
That’s how I eqed the set I borrowed. I had no eq in Deezer and it was a downloaded flac. It still wasn’t great but better than stock.
Maybe. My current set is a tired pair of Monoprice BT600ANC. I found that the high end of the xm4 lacking compared to the bt600anc. Noise canceling was about the same level as the 600anc.
TCL TVs are fine for the price, but you use a TV with more processing power than whatever hamster wheel TCL uses and you get real lusty real fast. Painfully slow, unresponsive UI.
Crazy. I have a Sony XBR 46” lcd that’s almost 20 years old. It still looks great for what it is (1080p and all). It was a top of the line tv back in the day that’s held its own for a very long time. It’s sad to see great companies/products fail.
Yes, but about 5 years or so ago sony started cheaping out on quality. You used to pay more for a Sony but the TV was better and more reliable than other brands. As of late, they still charged more, but they were just as likely to break or have problems than any other cheaper TV.
20 years ago is when LCD’s got good enough compared to CRTs and plasma.
Not as good but I still have my $1k 40” Sony tv. It’s good enough I don’t think about how much better my OLED is when watching it.
I had a TCL phone for a bit about 10 years ago and it was the hottest piece of garbage I had ever touched in my life
I bought a TCL TV a while ago. After a year, backlight died. So they sent me a new one. 6 months later, backlight died. Thankfully I got my money back this time and went with a different brand.
They’ve really worked to turn that around with their TVs. They’re entry level still sure, but for the price it’s hard to beat and their quality control on them has taken a big step up.
Their tvs are cheap because of all the ad and Spyware.
You mean the stuff every TV has these days? I also never hook mine to the internet so not really a problem. I haven’t seen a single ad in the year I’ve had mine
You can still get dumb tvs.
Edit: Yall. They are not hard to find. Please do a search of them. They can even be delivered right to your doorstep.
Yes they are hard to find. They are few and far between and cost over twice the price.
If you have a link or can tell me what store to walk in and get a dumb TV with even half the quality of my current TV I will take it. I could only find business displays which were all stuck at 60hz or had a color spectrum and contrast so bad my ten year old laptop IPS screen beat them.
Well I suspect the quality is not going to be up to your standard, but this is the one I have in my living room, and I think it’s perfectly fine. But if you just can’t live without 120hz or whatever, then I guess you’re stuck.
Walmart used to have a variety of these, now they’re down to one. All my TVs are either 10+ years old or Sceptre and therefore are all dumb. But I don’t have a purist bone in my body when it comes to AV stuff.
It’s not a bad TV. And if it was just watching movies or something I definitely wouldn’t care about 120hz, but it’s just so much better for gaming.
I’m not a purist, like I said I’m rocking a TCL which is low end, but I’ve come to appreciate some level of specs I can’t go back on.
That is over twice the price with low specs. You argument is invalid.
You literally just linked me a 60hz business display. The thing I said was the only thing I could find and ruled out…
I would LOVE to know how!
Thrift
I’m not the OP, but I have this one in my living room… 50", $232.
LOL
What disgusting cope. Don’t you have any self-respect?
Just because you can work around the abuse doesn’t mean they aren’t abusing you.
Edit: people like the commenter above are actively making the world worse by normalizing and even excusing abusive corporate practices. I apologize for nothing!
Dude, touch grass and calm down. You’re putting a lot of words in my mouth and completely missing the point which is why you’re getting down voted.
I’ve pushed back on “smart” TVs so much. My point was if your issue with TCL is the ads you should rightfully have issues with every TV. They’re all shoving ads, they’re all analysing watched content. This isn’t a TCL specific thing at all was my only point.
Also disconnecting from internet is a direct way of fighting back against that abuse. You’re not giving them those analytics or ad space. Sure you can choose to not buy any TV but I clearly keep overestimating people’s intelligence and didn’t think I needed to spell out every possible option in a quick comment.
Fuck I hate the braindead keyboard warriors the internet has enabled.
Quantity control :D
You saw nothing! ＼(°o°)／ Ever since I added my Welsh keyboard my autocorrect just doesn’t even try anymore on my phone.
Non-paywalled link: https://archive.ph/noqtk
Thanks.
I don’t really know why it is so hard for people to post things like this in the beginning. It’s just a way to annoy us because they should know we all don’t intend to pay some subscription to read news.
People dont go read an article then frantically look for the same article on another website before sharing it
i suggest, the link posted on lemmy, is translated to archive.ph, if one is available. But that requires work …
Because it’s even easier to just set up the right filters in uBO and never have to think about it again
Besides the paywall.
It doesn’t sound to me that this is making Sony go away from a market, it just sounds like they’ll still be involved.
Indeed, article makes it sound like both brands are putting their TV business into a new joint venture. Hardly the same as exiting the market.
My TCL has been going strong for 8 years now. I’ll stand behind supporting That Cheap Life.
It’s like when IBM left its PC manufacturing to Lenovo. And, probably a ton of other examples I’ve never paid any attention to.
It’s starting to feel like only old people look at a screen bigger than six inches. That, combined with displays becoming a commodity item, leads to the manufacturing being abandoned to commodity manufacturers. If Sony could bring anything of value that would justify the cost of holding on to this, they would. Sony’s name hasn’t been synonymous with quality for decades now, that’s partly their own doing through poor choices, but also the quality of cheap displays is perfectly adequate for most people.
Dafuq are you on about, Sony’s image processing and colour reproduction is one of if not the best in the entire display industry.
They were getting squeezed by Samsung and LG display for their OLED products so they just decided to engage in a joint venture with TCL that results in less costly manufacturing while leveraging the brand recognition and existing distribution channels. Basically TCL becomes an OEM. It’s not ideal but if this was to be avoided, we should have detached from the US based order in the 80s when it became obvious the US doesn’t like to compete and sniped the entire Japanese economy.
Sony’s main tech was in manufacturing. TCL will be getting a HUGE upgrade.
