• cm0002@piefed.worldOP
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    It’s mostly the Tankie Triad consisting of Hexbear, Lemmygrad and .ml

    I tend to focus on .ml because Hex and Grad are generally defederated from by most major instances because they are even more extreme than .ml on top of the fact that there’s a perception among instances that if they defederate from dessalines’ (head Lemmy dev, main .ml admin) .ml instance there will be retaliation in the form of pull back of technical support for their instance (Which, yea, I could totally see him doing that)

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      3 days ago

      There are some communities and some users who also lean tankie. !world@lemmy.world is often pretty crazy, and I have the feeling some users of slrpnk and dbzer0 also go nuts from time to time

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        dbzer0 has a ton of great communities but they’ve had some real weirdo niche mods come to light lately. I’m hoping they address it, it’d be a change of pace from the general admin approach on lemmy which can feel extremely hands-off on most instances.

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          oh yea i couldnt put my finger on dbzero, are they are tankie or not, ive seen quite a few users with pro-extreme rhetoric.

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            dbzer0 is the pro-piracy instance. That’s the entire political stance. Most users are some kind of anarchist, some are tankies or tankie sympathizers who are there because dbzer0 don’t defederate from Hexbear, and I’ve spotted a libertarian once, but all users on dbzer0 think piracy is a good thing to one extent or other.

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            slrpnk and dbzer0 are both fine, and .world is a bit fractious but still quite solid. Blahaj is good too! Really the only instances I’d suggest avoiding are Hexbear, Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad

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              Bahaj is a pretty nice place. The mods I’ve interacted with there seem to have their heads screwed on straight. We will see how long that continues.

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              people are fine, as long as they dont visit the main politics.world communities, or anyof the affiliate. there some semi-wierd pro-ziolnist thing going on.

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                I was permabanned from the political and news subs for writing, WITH REPUTABLE SOURCES, Russia’s election meddling AND for saying feminist things. I spoke with the mod who banned me publicly and he was unable to support his ban based on the rules, but kept it intact. Those subs imo are compromised by their mods

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                  yea i just skim those subs, prior to being purged as effort by reddit to reduce user numbers on the site. too easy to get into conflict with trolls and get yourself banned.

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              Blahaj 😂

              That must be one of the most authoritarian ones. Not tankie, but the lgbt tankie equivalent

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                Got any examples? Blahaj was founded on the principle of protecting trans people, and I have yet to see anything here that people are claiming as mods abusing their power that didn’t turn out to be people getting upset about being banned for being transphobic.

                There’s definitely some tankies here, but the biggest complaint I have about Blahaj is that you can’t see downvotes so the most controversial posts can look like the most agreed on takes.

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                  people are claiming as mods abusing their power that didn’t turn out to be people getting upset about being banned for being transphobic.

                  That’s exactly the thing: bans for transphobia are often about non-transphobic speech. Not agreeing on specific subjects doesn’t mean one is transphobic. Thinking a cisgender person can have an opinion on laws or regulation regarding transgenders is not transphobia. Having your feelings hurt over an opinion while you are a trans doesn’t make it transphobia. Transphobia is hate speech.

                  Source: I have been instance-banned from blahaj on an older account. Maybe twice? Not sure. I’m not willing to share the accounts’ names, but I try to respect my instance bans. Don’t want to interact there anyways

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                  people will assume I’m transphobic because they know me better than myself, apparently

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                    So Warl0k3 had a pretty good conversation on the matter, but as the original asker I just wanted to add something.

                    In this regard, Blahaj is no more authoritarian than a lesbian bar. That’s the analogy I use to describe how Blahaj is run - it’s like a gay/lesbian bar. It’s not a place meant to be an open floor of debate or something, it’s a place for trans people made by trans people. Blahaj is supposed to be a place where people can get away from the “just asking questions” or having to defend their existence constantly like everywhere else on the internet and real life. And just like a lesbian bar, if you bother the clientele or staff, you can and will be thrown out.

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                    I mean, it’s more that you say inherently transphobic things like:

                    I would personally say a cis guy dating a trans woman is gay

                    that shines some light on the potential reasons you might have been banned from the instance.

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        dbzer0 is ostensibly an anarchist instance, but it is often the kind of anarchy which is cozy with tankies and is otherwise very attached to one particular brand of anarchism that aligns with a lot of the tankies’ anti-west, anti-enlightenment ideals.

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        Tankie Triad users have been known to make trolling accounts across instances to stir up trouble in this manner

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        I haven’t run into much tankie activity in any of these places. Other than users from tankie servers dropping in.

        Is there an example from slrpnk you would point to? I feel like people here sometimes get very tribalist and assume anyone criticizing liberal nations or institutions from the left must be a tankie, but that’s quite silly.

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            It is! It’s supposed to be a more positive space for people to discuss solutions to tyranny and ecological problems, though as an online space there can generally still be some negativity. I still find it a mostly positive place. The sort of consensus ideology is libertarian socialism but any kind and respectful people are welcome, regardless of ideology.