Don’t forget allowing abortion bans so teen and child rape victims are forced to give birth to their rapists’ babies. And Tuskegee. And lack of healthcare access which kinda eugenics disabled people. And the CIA. Guantanamo. The government’s response to the AIDs epidemic.

That not how inductive reasoning works. Look into absurdism (philosophy)

That BBC interview is insane

You realize Trump was already previously part of a conspiracy to overthrow the election and was convicted of this, right? It’s not like he’s new to this kind of organizational crime. No one thinks he’s a mastermind; they think he’s a con artist and they just don’t trust him. And I’m not saying it was a false flag, I’m just pointing out that people are basing this on past evidence of his behaviors.

This is also not a qanon level of a conspiracy, it’s quite mild.

Here’s what right wing conspiracies have to say so far about the shooting (I highly recommend monitoring them to gauge how they will react the next few days):

https://kansascitydefender.com/national/trump-shooting-antifa-conspiracies/

Right-Wing Accounts Launch Mark Violets Antifa Conspiracy in Light of Trump “Assassination Attempt

Please note this has been DEBUNKED.

Right? I’m 100% ready to agree with them on the mental health aspect, let’s address that by giving people healthcare and access to food and housing

But that’s not cruel enough for them

https://kansascitydefender.com/national/trump-shooting-antifa-conspiracies/

Right-Wing Accounts Launch Mark Violets Antifa Conspiracy in Light of Trump “Assassination Attempt

Please note this is a DEBUNKED conspiracy per the link above, the shooter’s identity is unknown at this time

Lol exactly, no one knows the future. That’s the problem with inductive reasoning and the philosophical idea of the absurd.

https://kansascitydefender.com/national/trump-shooting-antifa-conspiracies/

Right-Wing Accounts Launch Mark Violets Antifa Conspiracy in Light of Trump “Assassination Attempt”

Further violence and a mild Civil War are not best case scenario. Queer people dying for your cause is not best case scenario.

Best case scenario (and what seems to be the alt theory on literally every social I have, and on some I don’t have), is that everyone believes this was a false flag (and/or there’s evidence it was a false flag). That fact that so many people IMMEDIATELY questioned the shooting is a really good sign. People just don’t trust him at all. Boy Who Cried Wolf etc

Yeah as info is being released I am thinking it is probably authentic. I still think he’d kill his own people to win the election though, the bodies don’t mean anything - except that there were live bullets fired and i don’t think he’d be okay with that around his precious self. However, most of his family were NOT at this rally.

Super same, I’d like a world where Gore won pls ty

Or where Reagan and Nixon didn’t exist

Have you ever heard of the Boy Who Cried Wolf? Trump used up all his “benefit of the doubt” from me. There is nothing he wouldn’t do. Didn’t he say he could ask his followers to murder someone and they’d do it?* What stops him from getting a rabid fanatic to shoot at him and then shoot himself? I don’t think it’s likely at all, but I wouldn’t be surprised. That so many people on Reddit (which is much more conservative than lemmy) think the same, shows that a LOT of people are cynical with him

• https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/23/464129029/donald-trump-i-could-shoot-somebody-and-i-wouldnt-lose-any-voters

“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn’t lose any voters, OK?” Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. “It’s, like, incredible.”

Sounds like premeditation. I do not think he cares even slightly about the deaths (he didn’t care about Ashli Babbitt). And also I have long suspected he had something to do with his ex wife’s death. He doesn’t really seem to care about people like others. Eg raping a 12 year old. Raping the aforementioned wife when his hair surgery didn’t turn out. The dude is a monster; these are things psychopaths do. He’d do something like this.

Eta: I’ve seen numerous TT Lives specifically asking if it was staged or not. That many many people IMMEDIATELY suspected this at least shows how much this country trusts him. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNyyJfgh/

In another reality, they didn’t miss

Yeah I can’t get past that, Trump is a certified coward. Maybe he was dissociative afterwards? The way he jumps and grabs his ear seems authentic but who knows

Cognitive decline isn’t minor? Like if this was my grandparent, I wouldn’t let them drive a vehicle due to concerns about their safety and the safety of others. We’re letting him drive a country. Stop gaslighting

Ugh Trump is now going to portray himself as a hero

Also, if you don’t exercise your rights, it’s functionally like you don’t have those rights at all

How do you say that and not get upset at the cop for clear abuse of power in that hypothetical? The cop is older, has training

We won’t see it, but at least we will die with other people. They’re going out just like those billionaires on the Titanic sub - alone in a hostile environment, scared, banking stupidly on their own hubris instead of science.

The worst of our generation. Like the single worst person from Millennials by a long shot.