The bomber at a fertility clinic in Palm Springs, California, has been identified as a 25-year-old man who left an online manifesto in which he described himself as a pro-mortalist, saying people didn’t give consent to exist. The suspect is Guy Edward Bartkus, a 25-year-old man from Twentynine Palms, a small city about 35 miles […]

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The bomber at a fertility clinic in Palm Springs, California, has been identified as a 25-year-old man who left an online manifesto in which he described himself as a pro-mortalist, saying people didn’t give consent to exist.

The suspect is Guy Edward Bartkus, a 25-year-old man from Twentynine Palms, a small city about 35 miles northeast of Palm Springs. He left a 30-minute audio recording in which he explained his motive for the attack.

“I figured I would just make a recording explaining why I’ve decided to bomb an IVF building, or clinic,” he said at the beginning of the recording. “Basically, it just comes down to I’m angry that I exist and that, you know, nobody got my consent to bring me here.”

Describing himself as anti-life, he adds: “I’m very against [IVF], it’s extremely wrong. These are people who are having kids after they’ve sat there and thought about it. How much more stupid can it get?”

  • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
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    10 hours ago

    If I believe in numerology and as a result decide to pat myself on the head 12 times before bed that is not evidence that numerology is not a nutty woo woo theory

    Well…billions of people on this planet do believe in divine supreme beings. I assume that, for the sake of consistency, you consider deity-based religions to be nutty woo woo theories on similar grounds, yes? I should note that they believe in it to the extent of fighting actual wars over it.

    has real world applications.

    I already explained the real world applications of antinatalism in my previous comments. These are real things that people do that have actual, quantifiable results.

    As I said, prospective parents need to accept the risk that their child might resent them for being born. I’m happy to consider that in the unlikely circumstance that I encounter it

    That isn’t answering the question though. You obviously think that creating life is good for the life being created, yes? And antinatalists don’t.

    • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      8 hours ago

      Tricky one. I think most wars purportedly fought on religious grounds are in fact about power and money. Regardless any combatants that believe they’re fighting at the behest of their deity are idiots. That’s hardly a real world application, it’s just a way to manipulate people.

      I don’t really accept the premise that creating a life is either good or bad for the created life. Rather, of every n lives created, what portion would prefer never to have existed? Every parent has rolled that dice and bears the consequences of harming an entity who preferred not to exist.