Beijing has called on the US to “completely cancel all unilateral tariff measures” if it wants trade talks, in some of China’s strongest comments yet on the impasse between the world’s two economic superpowers.

“The unilateral tariff measures were initiated by the US,” said He Yadong, a Chinese commerce ministry spokesperson. “If the US truly wants to solve the problem, it should . . . completely cancel all unilateral tariff measures against China and find a way to resolve differences through equal dialogue.”

Beijing has maintained that the US must make the first move to de-escalate the crisis, which is threatening to spark a hard decoupling between the two countries’ economies.

Chinese analysts argue that the US imposition of high tariffs make it difficult for Beijing to find a way to defuse the crisis.

China’s President Xi Jinping would find it difficult to engage personally with Trump on the trade war unless this was preceded by extensive negotiations to hammer out a deal, they say.

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  • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
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    Absolutely not. If we’re going to be on the aggressive path, we need to stay the course. There are demands in place. Either they’re met, or it keeps going - up to and including a complete embargo on Chinese goods, while we continue to discuss the situations with HK and Taiwan ROC separately.

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      Yes. Double down. No more half measures. Full acceleration towards full destruction of usa economy. Take the treats away from the yanks, I want to see what they’ll do.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      Given that China isn’t going to cave, what you’re saying here is that you think the US should tank its economy by doubling down. Sounds like you’re well qualified for a job at the White House.

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        What about the hypothesis that in reality Trump wants to “decouple” from China to enhance is military capability in a war on China?

        I mean, it is clear to me that the US has little chance to compete on economic/innovation merit, yet it still has a considerable chance militarily… for now. The psychopaths running the US probably know they can only hope to compete via violence, and in a few years even that opportunity will be lost.

        I am afraid of WW3. I really hope the US is so blinded by its own neoliberal koolaid that they continue to bet China is about to collapse, as Gordon Chang has been predicting since 2001.

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          I think there’s ample evidence against that hypothesis. Cost overruns and project cancellations abound in the US MIC. From Minutemen nukes to fighter jets to hypersonic missiles, nothings is really going right. As we saw in West Asia, the USA doesn’t even have enough body armor for its forces, and it certainly can’t care for its casualties. There’s really no way it’s going to win a war that it has to go literally to the other side of the planet to conduct. It will be so heavily dependent on vassals, like The Philippines, Japan, and occupied Korea that every single thing it does will be done in a way that is completely fragile and smothered with paranoia if not constant sabotage.

          As far as I’m concerned, all the military strategists who believe that the window for winning a war against China is closing are only taking into account paper capabilities and not taking into account the USA’s inability to actually produce, maintain, and deliver those capabilities in a sustained conflict. To me, that means the window is likely closed. Then take into account that both China and Russia have been very successful in counter-intelligence and the intelligence fiasco that is Ukraine and I don’t think the US military strategists are even working with an accurate picture of China’s capabilities and capacities. I fully believe the window has closed and it’s just going to take some time for the reality on the ground to reach the strategists.

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      we need to stay the course

      Sunk cost fallacy. The trade war is a collossal mistake on the part of the US. It can accomplish nothing. Trump’s entire strategy was based on the idea of tarrifs being more undesirable for his opponents than for him. He was wrong.

      China is not worried if the US issues a full embargo on Chinese exports to the USA. China’s focus is on the rest of the world when it comes to trade and it’s only focus on the US is worrying about US military adventures that it needs to defend against.

      As for Hong Kong, you mean the city that England stole from China when they devastated them after getting half their people addicted to opium because it was the only thing the English could figure out how to sell? You mean the city that was run as an oppressive colony by brutal British governors until they realized they were finally going to have to give the city back and then decided to do a complete propaganda/indoctrination move, enrich token Hong Kongers, “enhance” the already existing indoctrination in schools that worshipped British “civilization” and propagandized their captive audience to fear and loathe their own countrymen? That Hong Kong situation that China has successfully worked through so far in a processes of integration, deradicalization, and respect? That situation? Where the protests in Hong Kong saw protestors throwing fire bombs at police force weeks on end but never escalated into a police riot like what happens in the US? That situation?

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      Y’all should get rid of Trump and his… entourage, tell everyone “sorry, this was all a big mistake, grandpa’s gone a bit crazy with old age, let’s forget all this nonsense”, it’s the only way to gain back some of the influence you lost.