- Iran is helping the Houthis try to secure Russian anti-ship missiles, Reuters reported.
- These could improve their attacks on ships in the Red Sea and threaten US warships, an expert said.
- Two officials said Houthis met Russians twice in Tehran this year, and more meetings are coming.
Iran is helping the Houthi rebels try to secure Russian anti-ship missiles, Reuters reported, citing three Western and regional sources.
Two regional officials aware of the talks said the Houthis and Russians have met at least twice this year in Tehran, where discussions to supply the missiles were underway.
They added that more meetings are expected in the coming weeks.
Oh no.
Holy shit guys.
An international power might leverage a proxy war to use cutting edge weapons against an enemy nation that they otherwise wouldn’t be able to.
Does that strike anyone else as a familiar refrain?
Ah, yes, the enemy nation of civilian shipping. Truly dastardly.
The enemy nation of shipping going to a nation committing genocide.
Ansarallah, like Hezbollah, has made it clear that their blockade stops with the genocide. (EDIT: to be clear, Hezbollah had said they’d stop their support front. They’re not engaging in a blockade like Yemen.) When there was a ceasefire with prisoner exchange they both stopped. (Their respective actions.)
Leaving that bit out explicitly shows your bias.
Except for all those ships they’ve attacked that aren’t going to Israel, or controlled by Israel, or even have anything vaguely to do with Israel and her allies.
But sure, keep simping for attacking civilians because THESE ones are on YOUR side, right? “Our heroic killers vs. their dastardly murderers”
I’m not simping for them. They’re not on MY side. They’re doing what they can to stop an actual ongoing genocide, which I give them credit for. But, I’m guessing that you would accuse FDR of simping for the Soviet Union.
Frankly, I think that after the US and Saudi Arabia tried for years to starve Yemen that they deserve to be left the fuck alone.
Also, Ansarallah have demonstrably lied less than the people saying that the ships they attack weren’t associated with Israel.
It’s interesting that you would accuse people who have the standard of “I give more credence to sources that have demonstrably lied less” as simping. It makes it absolutely clear that you care more about propaganda then you do about the truth.
“They’re attacking civilians at random, this will really contribute to stopping a genocide!”
What are you, a fucking Zionist with that kind of logic?
And why do you believe that they’re attacking civilians at random instead of ships that match the specifications they’ve given for their blockade?
EDIT: And no, I disagree with your assertion they are attacking civilians at random.
The fact that you intentionally misread my disagreement at that to pithily call me a Zionist is just bad rhetoric designed to appeal to people that already agree with you. Good job defending genocide. (See what I did there?)
EDIT 2: The two actions that have done the most harm against Israel is Hezbollah’s support front that targeted Israel’s sensors for Iron dome that displaced up to 100,000 Israeli’s in the north, And Yemens blockade that has incredibly damaged Israels economy to almost the breaking point and bankrupted the Eilat port.
You’re not against the genocide, you’re just against anything that is effective against it. I hope you get help.
You also still haven’t sourced the “Attacking civilians” claim that you seem to want to use to attack me personally.
Also, what do you think the US would do to a civilian ship in international waters that the US believes is carrying Iranian Oil? What do you think they’d do if the cargo ship ignored the USN in international waters and refused to allow boarding operations?
EDIT 3: Do you think the blockade of merchant ships in the US Civil War was ineffective? Do you think that the USN firing upon civilian merchant ships trying to take cotton to the UK was morally wrong?
Because the ships attacked don’t match the specifications they’ve given. Jesus Christ.
I’m sorry that you think “doing what they can” to stop an ongoing genocide by attacking civilians, which is what they’re doing even if they were ALL Israeli ships, is contributing to stopping a genocide. I hope you get help.
Your source above 403’s and is specifically a (Liberal, to be sure) Zionist source.
The few times I’ve seen US media claim that the ships didn’t match, they did match to Israeli ownership, one step removed.
Why are you so certain of something that is literally part of the debate that you don’t understand why others disagree with you?
You’re like a quantum anti-genocidal person. You post against it, but no one fighting the genocide is perfect enough for you to the point that you readily believe the people committing genocide as sources against the people actually trying to fight the genocide.
In that vein, It is strange to me that you advocate against one of the two MOST EFFECTIVE actions taken against Israel to date: The blockade that has done immense financial pain to Israel and bankrupted one of their ports.
Source? I thought they were only attacking ships that dock in/ship to Israel?
Also, have they killed/indefinitely detained anyone? Or just cause property damage?
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/security-aviation/2024-01-15/ty-article-magazine/30-attacks-all-red-sea-ships-targeted-by-the-houthis/0000018c-5df7-d6f9-afbc-5dff7a430000
From the start, it’s been just taking targets of opportunity. Almost like their goal is just terrorism in service to boosting their own legitimacy as a player in the ongoing civil war.
8 dead, 25 still detained.
A literal Israeli newspaper article about the blockade that has done the most economic damage to Israel to date as a source for how ineptly the people who have done the most damage to Israel are not doing it right. Oh, and it 403’s, currently.
Great sourcing there.
There is no ongoing civil war, too. It was won completely by Ansarallah against the puppet regime that Saudi Arabia and the US tried to install through forced starvation. This bullshit “Ongoing civil war” is just another example of refusing to acknowledge the winning side when people don’t like the fact they won.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Deg7VrpHbM
What percentage of Yemen does Ansarallah hold?
What do you call a civil war when one side holds no territory or power?
I would also say that someone that claims a blockade doesn’t economically hurt the people being blockaded should get help.
Definitely a you problem. Loads fine for me.
Another complete miss from lemmy.ml
Just as a familiar refrain? It strikes me as basically half our GDP.
Nothing important to say but this is hilarious.
Absolutely.
But I was thinking more recent history. Like how the US is supplying advanced weaponry to Ukraine.
Pointing out such hypocrisy is my favorite passtime nowadays. And whether it’s here, reddit. Twitter, etc. It always gets me downvotes. Kinda disappointing that so many people are still blinded by nationalism.
I feel you. I have that autism where I tend to jump in convos to correct facts and people take it as the biggest insult and assume it means I think exactly the opposite of everything they say. I’ve found it’s easier for me to just lean into it since it’s going to happen regardless, I may as well be the one dictating the terms.
What enemy nation are the Houthis at war with?
Israel. Which is clear if you’ve read even one of their announcements of the blockade.
And calling the leadership of Yemen Houthis is like calling any US person a Kennedy.
What does attacking cargo ships, flagged from Barbados, crewed by Filipinos, owned in Liberia, operated out of Greece, originating from China, and destined to Jeddah and Aqaba have to do with Israel?
‘Owned in Liberia’
I like how you stuck that in the middle. Just trying to sneak it in a bunch of other stuff that is unquestionable.
You know that that isn’t clever, right?
It’s obvious what you are doing, and why.
I guess I shouldn’t expect better from someone using the racist term ‘Houthis’ for the government of Yemen.
What’s wrong with owning a ship in Liberia?
Gave an example where the Houthis attacked and killed people on a ship that had nothing to do with Israel.
When you cry racism about every thing is loses meaning.
Do you think most ships ‘Owned in Liberia’ are owned by Liberian citizens?
Who owned the ship? Don’t insult my intelligence and say Liberia.
This isn’t everything. It’s an intentional racist term intended to delegitimize a government by equating it with a select group of people. There. You learned something today.
Or should I start calling every Israeli a Netanyahu, every American a Kennedy, and every British person a Starmer?
‘The Kennedy’s seized another oil tanker on international waters today claiming it contained Iranian oil’
Does that seem like an okay headline to you?
EDIT: Maybe you’d like being called a Kennedy. Maybe Bushie would be a better example for you.
Are they carrying goods destined for Israel?
As in goods going to Jeddah would ultimately get shipped to Iseral? I have no idea if Saudi Arabia is being used as a pass through.
It is at least from the UAE passing through Saudi Arabia and Jordan.
https://www.voanews.com/a/red-sea-attacks-foster-arab-israeli-trade-link-by-land/7487827.html
Given that these news are half a year old and Saudis don’t like to talk about it, but do the business, it is very much possible that goods go from Jeddah to Israel too.