So I’m building a new computer before the end of the year and lemmy is obviously pushing me towards Linux.

I am not computer savvy, I have a family member that will help me set up my PC, but I do not want to be calling/messaging them every day when I want to open a program.

Basically my question comes down to: can I operate a Linux PC these days without needing to troubleshoot or type code.

I use my computer about once a week for a few hours I would say, so any time spent troubleshooting is time wasted.

Thanks!

EDIT: since a lot of people are asking what programs I typically use, I’ll just list my most used programs.

Word, Excel, ect(I’m fine with alternatives)

Spotify

Gimp (would have been a make or break, so I’m glad it’s supported)

Brave browser (browser is a browser)

Steam

Discord

I would say that while I could figure out how the kernels work, I’m at a point with computers these days where I don’t have the time. My priorities fall with a seamless daily experience. If I have the time to figure something out I can, but ideally my day to day usage being unbotherd is what I’m after.

A lot of the comments so far have been helpful! I’m definitely going to give Linux a fair shot with my new build, probably start with Mint.

  • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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    I’ve been on Linux for 20+ years now and it’s not as effortless as Windows or Mac, but it is definitely easy now.

    So many things have improved with Linux desktop it’s crazy.

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      It’s what I got to use in highschool computer class, I’m a sucker for what I know.

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    Make sure to go for an immutable distro with kde if you’re a windows user, you’ll never have to do any maintenance, I highly recommend fedora kinoite

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    Well since your building a computer your more tech savvy then most people. I have been using Linux for about 20 years now. If you pick something like Linux Mint or others make sure you have a solid /home partition and migrate to what’s ever distro you like most. It allows you to move around and not lose your data.

    Worst case you do some distro hopping for a little bit and then install Windows and there is nothing wrong with that. I have a windows laptop for the very reason that Windows works best with certain apps just like I use a Mac for video editing

  • ulterno@lemmy.kde.social
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    Steam ⇒ No Ubuntu

    For Word/Excel alternatives, I would suggest LibreOffice fresh. So, go with one that gives recent versions of it [1].

    can I operate a Linux PC these days without needing to troubleshoot or type code.

    That will vary greatly depending upon your Hardware selection. I was lucky enough to manage a good enough setup (adding extra effort to check Motherboard components) for Linux support and still have a few problems. [I am unable to get CPU fan speed (tachometer reading).]

    I like Endeavour OS, but it being rolling on Arch, means, it is for someone who is happy with troubleshooting and bug reporting.

    I had tried Open SUSE for a bit (back then, I hardy knew Linux) and liked that too.

    Debian probably won’t work either, because, even though it is something you probably won’t need to troubleshoot for years, once setup, Steam will make it hard for you and Discord, well, no idea. I removed it after declining the new TOS.


    1. I hated the problems with older versions, which seem to be greatly reduced in the newer ones ↩︎

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        Maybe this article would be a good indicator.

        By default, Ubuntu will give the Snap version, which Steam devs don’t like to support.
        And installing another version will probably require some configuration and terminal stuff, so I’d suggest going with something that plays well with Valve.

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          This is true. And it’s also why I always recommend downloading steam through their website. They distribute their own Deb directly, and it auto updates.

          Flatpak version is also okay but if you want to use a secondary disk then you need to know how to use portals (or the Flatpak configuration tool that I can’t remember the name of).

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            Flatseal is the tool.

            (Another benefit to using the flatpak version of Steam is that Steam leaks rather substantial chunks of /dev/shm memory. The flatpak automatically cleans that up. God knows why Valve hasn’t fixed this yet.)

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    Yes, it’s easy. BUT:

    • buy Linux-compatible hardware. While you might technically be able to get something to run by fucking around, it’s just better to bit Linux-compatible hardware. If something doesn’t work, it doesn’t work, put it on a shelf and try again in six months.
    • If you’re dual-booting windows, know that windows occasionally nukes the boot loader, so that only windows loads. This happens irregularly, like every 2-5 years. A Linux friend can help fix it, or you can follow instructions online (you need an empty thumb drive to do it).
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      Sometimes, when dual booting Windows and Linux, especially on the same drive, the Windows installation just breaks. Sends you to automatic repair only for it to not work.

      I learned this the hard way.

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    It could not be simpler.

    My grandfather in law kept getting scammed and installing viruses while on Windows. I installed Linux Mint on his desktop last year, setup automatic updates, created a non admin account for him, changed a few easy configurations to hide the technical stuff that appears when you turn the computer on, and he fucking loves it.

    Keep in mind getting this man to login to Netflix on his TV is a minimum 30 minute long phone call. One time, we had to send people to check on him because his phone was off for 3 days straight; he put it on airplane mode and couldn’t figure out how to turn it off.

    He has had 0, yes, exactly 0, problems with his computer since I installed Linux Mint. It’s faster, to point where he noticed and commented on it, and he finds it easier to use than Windows, which has been on every computer he has ever owned.

    He brags to anyone who will give him the time of day how much he loves it.

    I promise you, it’s really that easy.

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      I feel like Linux is good for power users or users like your grandfather who are not very tech savvy. The issues arise with users savvy enough to get themselves into trouble but not enough to understand how to fix it or how to do a slightly more advanced task.

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      Same experience with my relatives. I had some family whose Macbooks were no longer able to update (for Apple forced obsolescence reasons). They run Mint now, and have never had a single problem since I first set them up.

      Well, one of them called me because they couldn’t figure out how to attach a file to an email… But that problem would have been identical on Mac OS.

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    Yes it is. Pick a newbie friendly distribution. Say Ubuntu.

    IMHO Windows is only “user friendly” because it’s preinstalled on most PC’s.

    User friendliness comes with experience.

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    I assume you’re talking about Desktop Environments. Yes, of course. KDE and Gnome rival MacOS as far as usability goes. The better part is that other software development groups port their software over to Linux as well and make it as seamless as possible.

    People run into confusion here when people flood the comments on user questions like this, so let me shut that down right now.

    If you need something that is a straight Desktop Environment, get a distro with KDE or Gnome, and a known OS that will have a lot of user base getting questions and answers if you even run into any.

    Fedora or Ubuntu. Don’t listen to anyone arguing for their preferred favorites.

    Don’t listen to performance comments.

    You want a solid, no issues, not needing to look for help kind of distro. It’s those two, no question, and they both have KDE and Gnome variants.

    That’s really about it.

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      I would maybe add Linux Mint to that list, but otherwise you’re spot on. Fedora and Ubuntu are the easiest and most robust systems for novice computer users.

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        Depends. If someone is gaming with new hardware, don’t use a distro that doesn’t update the kernel quickly and regularly.

        Almost every problem with hardware on mint is solved by going through the process of updating the kernel or switching to a distro with up to date libraries.

        It’s fine for a lot of people, but it doesn’t “just work” outside of the use case of only browsing the internet and word documents.

        This is coming from someone who used mint for 4 years. There was about a dozen times where the software on the software center was so out of date that it simply didn’t work and I had to resort often to using random ppa’s which often broke other things. Definitely not user friendly.

        That being said, Cinnamon is probably one of the most user friendly DEs for people switching from window. It is very nice.

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          Fair points. I’ve only ever taken Mint for a quick spin and that was a decade ago. I just see it constantly recommended as one of the most user-friendly distros, thus the maybe recommendation.

          Personally, I’m all in on Fedora Atomic for my hosts and (mostly) Arch in my containers.

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      Fully agree with this. There will be a slight learning curve since it will be different from what your used to, but it’s friendly enough to figure out.

      If you know the windows program you want to use just search something like “Linux alternative for x” (sometimes there is specific KDE or Gnome progs)

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      Only thing I might add would be potentially Bluefin. It is Fedora with Gnome, except Atomic. It markets itself as:

      The best of both worlds: the reliability and ease of use of a Chromebook, with the power of a GNOME desktop.

      It’s been fantastic for me with automatic updates and everything installed through flathub so you don’t bork your system with any misconfigured installs.

      https://projectbluefin.io/

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      IMO it’s the best (desktop) Chromium-based browser. Which means it’s a bad browser but there are a lot of worse options.

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      I agree on the stop using brave part, but if your blog starts with this argument, your opinion piece means shit

      Why was appointing Eich as CEO so controversial? It’s because he donated $1,000 in support of California’s Proposition 8 in 2008, which was a proposed amendment to California’s state constitution to ban same-sex marriage. Eich wrote a blog post defending himself in 2012, when the donation was initially discovered, where did not apologize and denied the donation made him a bigot