Dutch beach volleyball player Steven van de Velde, who served time in prison after he was convicted of raping a 12-year-old girl, won his second match at the Paris Olympics and received an even harsher reaction from the crowd on Wednesday than for his first match.

  • Snowclone@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    The US does not have a rehabilitation prison system. We don’t really have a justice system, we have a vengeance system and a torture prison system. I don’t think prison should be torture or a slave plantation for any convict in any case. Although our property crime sentencing is overly harsh and violent crimes against a person are far to lenient. I think rapists need to be removed from society more than anything else, it should be up there with murder one. Also I think most non violent convicts could be on house arrest, work, pay taxes, and not be vengefully tortured.

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      3 months ago

      I’m only intolerant of intolerance. That means I’ll forgive murderers and rapists once they’ve completed their punishment and rehabilitation. But, I also understand that my perspective on forgiveness isn’t common.

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        3 months ago

        Except you’re not forgiving them once they’ve had their punishment and Rehabilitation. As pointed out this child rapist is unremorsful. He was neither punished nor rehabilitated. He’s an unrepentant child rapist. That’s who you’re defending.

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        3 months ago

        A year for multiple rapes if a 12 year old is barely a sentence, no matter what justice system you’re in. And he’s clearly not even sorry.

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          3 months ago

          A year for multiple rapes if a 12 year old is barely a sentence, no matter what justice system you’re in.

          I agree. He voluntarily did more, though.

          And he’s clearly not even sorry.

          When? Before he voluntarily did more, or afterwards?

          Rape isn’t alcoholism. For some it’s maybe like heroin. But, I’ve not had a drink in more than a decade and know a heroin addict with more time under his belt. People can change.

          After he screwed up someone’s life then did more than his sentence, he seems OK to everyone he’s engaging with now. So, I wonder if I’d forgive him if I met him IRL. It’s easier to judge him without nuance hypothetically, when there’s no consequences for doing so. If I met him I’d hopefully be strong enough give him a chance.

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            3 months ago

            And his victim, who has self harmed after he hurt her, gets to watch him live his best life at the olympics.

            No. That’s not ok.

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              3 months ago

              If you’ll never forgive, why not just kill proactively?

              No. That’s not ok.

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                3 months ago

                Wow that is QUITE a jump from this dude shouldn’t be in the olympics to why not kill him.

                There is plenty of other shit he could be doing that doesn’t involve international television.

                And no, i will not forgive rapists because I have yet to see one who has ever been remorseful for what they’ve done. Certainly not from what i’m hearing about this guy.

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                  3 months ago

                  There’s plenty of other shit you could be doing than punishing someone forever instead of offering them a quick death.