The former president ducked to the floor as shots rang out and was mobbed by Secret Service agents, while the sniper, who was killed by security forces, has been named as Thomas Matthew Crooks.
For those thinking this is staged, listen to the audio carefully. You can hear the impact of the bullets landing near the podium before you hear the sound of the bullet being fired. You can hear a distinct click just before each pop; because bullets typically travel faster than sound, this is accurate to what you would actually hear if you were being shot at. This seems like a detail that Trump’s team would be too incompetent to have thought to account for.
They sound nothing like bullet impacts on anything.
It sounds tinny due to the audio being equalized for a speech in a large open noisy area.
The report that you hear afterward is the echo, the report, of the gunshot, as the sound is in a fairly large open area and it bounces/echoes through the environment.
This confirms that it is real gunshots, not bb guns as some people who have evidently never listened to footage of gunshots are claiming.
I have done a lot of this as I have done a good deal of sound design research for mods for various military/realism themed shooter games, and yes that does make me a bit of an odd duck.
However, mixing up certain guns and certain ranges under differing audio conditions is an entirely different ballpark then confusing a firearm with a bb gun.
I didn’t mean to be rude, just fact of the matter, with the post I am responding to.
The bb gun thing is a reference to some other person elsewhere in this thread who cited some rando on twitter thinking it was a bb gun, who I do mean to be rude toward.
You may be right, but that final shot throws me off. It sounds like a different caliber round, and there’s no click that comes before it, which makes me think the last shot was fired at the shooter by somebody else, instead of at the podium.
A consensus seems to be emerging that the first few shots were the shooter, and at least some of the volley that followed were from counter snipers or a quick react force of some other technical name.
It wouldn’t have to have been too far. Ever been to a baseball game and notice the delay between seeing the swing and hearing the crack of the bat from the stands? If you’re seated behind the outfield, there’s easily a longer delay in that scenario than what we can hear in the clip.
It sounds like roughly a quarter of a second between the click and the pop, so I imagine the shooter was less than a hundred yards away.
The final shot we hear also sounds like it came from a different gun, and there’s no preceding click sound before it. That leads me to believe that shots at Trump were probably from somebody in the crowd, and security or another bystander fired one shot into the shooter. But that’s just my hunch right now.
If he were genuinely in danger, I wouldn’t expect him to care about anything but himself. He’d do his posturing from inside a safe car or the day after.
I’m going to assume, charitably, that you’re not lost in the conspiracy sauce.
If you’ve seen the way flat earthers argue, you should understand why I’m grilling Soup over this. It’s not helpful, and there’s nothing but fan fiction in their head to even substantiate it.
For those thinking this is staged, listen to the audio carefully. You can hear the impact of the bullets landing near the podium before you hear the sound of the bullet being fired. You can hear a distinct click just before each pop; because bullets typically travel faster than sound, this is accurate to what you would actually hear if you were being shot at. This seems like a detail that Trump’s team would be too incompetent to have thought to account for.
You are not hearing the impact of the bullets.
The ‘click’ you are hearing are the gunshots.
They sound nothing like bullet impacts on anything.
It sounds tinny due to the audio being equalized for a speech in a large open noisy area.
The report that you hear afterward is the echo, the report, of the gunshot, as the sound is in a fairly large open area and it bounces/echoes through the environment.
This confirms that it is real gunshots, not bb guns as some people who have evidently never listened to footage of gunshots are claiming.
To be fair… how many people listen to footage of gunshots? I have only heard them fake in a movie or in real life from my memory.
I have done a lot of this as I have done a good deal of sound design research for mods for various military/realism themed shooter games, and yes that does make me a bit of an odd duck.
However, mixing up certain guns and certain ranges under differing audio conditions is an entirely different ballpark then confusing a firearm with a bb gun.
I didn’t mean to be rude, just fact of the matter, with the post I am responding to.
The bb gun thing is a reference to some other person elsewhere in this thread who cited some rando on twitter thinking it was a bb gun, who I do mean to be rude toward.
You may be right, but that final shot throws me off. It sounds like a different caliber round, and there’s no click that comes before it, which makes me think the last shot was fired at the shooter by somebody else, instead of at the podium.
A consensus seems to be emerging that the first few shots were the shooter, and at least some of the volley that followed were from counter snipers or a quick react force of some other technical name.
So, basically, you are probably correct.
That would explain why they let him stand up.
But to be distinguished from the shot itself, it would have to be a fair distance away.
It wouldn’t have to have been too far. Ever been to a baseball game and notice the delay between seeing the swing and hearing the crack of the bat from the stands? If you’re seated behind the outfield, there’s easily a longer delay in that scenario than what we can hear in the clip.
It sounds like roughly a quarter of a second between the click and the pop, so I imagine the shooter was less than a hundred yards away.
The final shot we hear also sounds like it came from a different gun, and there’s no preceding click sound before it. That leads me to believe that shots at Trump were probably from somebody in the crowd, and security or another bystander fired one shot into the shooter. But that’s just my hunch right now.
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Are you suggesting that if the bullet was real, Trump wouldn’t pose for the cameras?
You know, to reassure his base that he is a very big, very strong man, the only thing they like him for?
If he were genuinely in danger, I wouldn’t expect him to care about anything but himself. He’d do his posturing from inside a safe car or the day after.
You could expect that, yeah.
…okay, and?
No, nothing further. I guessed from your comment we were just throwing random țheories at the wall.
I’m going to assume, charitably, that you’re not lost in the conspiracy sauce.
If you’ve seen the way flat earthers argue, you should understand why I’m grilling Soup over this. It’s not helpful, and there’s nothing but fan fiction in their head to even substantiate it.