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    ending public schools doesn’t sound too crazy until you realize how much private schools can cost. Parents gonna get some sticker shock if these plans go through

    Edit: Easy people, I am by no means suggesting public education is a bad thing just that I know a lot of people who never went to public school.

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        Well I find it crazy because I went to public school, but like I’ve talked to an oddly large amount of people who either didnt go to public school or think everything should be privatized. Of the people in my extended family like a third were homeschooled for instance.

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          Conservatives want to privatize everything because then extracting money from it is “profit” rather than “embezzlement”.

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            Also, a lot of private schools are very religious because they don’t have to adhere to any separation of church and state. Get rid of public schools and you no longer have to use loopholes to indoctrinate children.

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          I went to a private school and I was abused by the same teacher for all six years I was there. He also ran the school so he basically controlled me and made sure I never told my parents, who didn’t figure it out until I was an adult and someone else told them because all I had done was drop hints and then I eventually gave up.

          Fuck private schools. They are accountable to no one.

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          Like of the people in my extended family like a third were homeschooled for instance.

          And how did that go for them?

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            One is a nuclear scientist… I’m probably living in a weird niche. I think its actually the private school people who who got the most fucked up but most the home schoolers I’ve met have large gaps in their knowledge (history is probably the most common and one has poor science literacy, for instance)

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              I suppose there can be success stories, but I worry more end up with gaps. Still, I think you’re right, stronger public education sounds like the answer.

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      They’ll just give vouchers for Christian private schools, who will charge as much as they like but it’ll be an ‘approved’ school and drain more taxpayer money. Also sounds crazy when you realize the attendance in a public school. Basically funding Christian oriented schools.

      Didn’t downvote you and see what you mean, but your conclusion didn’t really come out to their endgame. It’ll be affordable to all, cause it’ll be Indoctrination for Christian Nationalists.

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        you’ll still have to pay a lot of money to get real education. I mean like these christian schools struggle with things like evolution, the age of the universe. So science education is something that will be expensive.

        Its ironic that science classes were the only part of public school I enjoyed. I cannot think of something more sad and joyless than a bunch of adults teaching kids about their congnitively dissonent interpretation of the bible or whatever instead of being able to point at the sky and say “the light from that star is older than this entire planet”

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          you’ll still have to pay a lot of money to get real education.

          Exactly, meaning most people won’t. Leading to dumber, more easily controlled citizens. Easily locked into their 40-50hr/wk rat-race, happy for a meager bit of comfort, unwilling to take the risk involved in forcing real actual change.

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          That’s the thing, they don’t care if people have a solid understanding of science if it gives them power / more true believers. It’s a completely backwards thinking that’ll set back science for years, decades or more if it really takes hold.

          If the strongest military power on Earth is being controlled by religious fundamentalists (aka heritage foundation) it is quite scary. Sure it’ll take some time to widdle down the will of the people in charge (replace them) but given a bit of time it could easily happen and they don’t just want to change their country they think their opinion is right for the world.

          I also agree, I love science, I’m older but I still strive to learn new things, get excited by new discoveries it’d be a shame if that stopped cause people gave up on it, or if education failed people wanting to learn it.

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            Absolutely not, no parent should be choosing between educating their child and feeding their child. Not only should children’s education be free, there should be more meal support.

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              And yet you want only private schools where the more you pay, the better education you get.

              Make up your mind.

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                  Yes, I already quoted you once:

                  you’ll still have to pay a lot of money to get real education.

                  That was you defending your own idea after someone criticized the conclusion you came up with.

                  Here it is in context:

                  It’s pretty silly to pretend that isn’t what you were arguing for when someone can just look at the comments you made in the order in which they were made.

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                    the implication is that privatization increases costs and lowers quality for social services like education and healthcare. Nowhere did I say this is something I wanted.