The reason I am fighting about this is because those jackasses lied to us and didnt let people work. I literally had to nearly lay off all of my staff because of this shutdown bullshit. People that couldnt go on unemployment and would have just been fucked. What I care about is the truth, not the propaganda and lies. I am not on one of your guys teams, I am person that likes to think for myself and actually look at facts not propaganda. The story above is obvious propaganda, and I will fight that whenever I see it.
What state do you live in where you can’t go on unemployment if you’re laid off? I got laid off from a part-time job during COVID and qualified for unemployment. And this is in Republican-dominated Indiana.
This sounds suspiciously like you’re doing something underhanded with your employees.
Business might be fictional. They certainly don’t care about facts or reality on this topic. Why would they limit the lies and cognitive biases only to the websites they’re sharing?
“I am person that likes to think for myself and actually look at facts not propaganda”
That aside, the way small businesses were left hanging was definitely a political failure. I don’t know what business you have or why you had to fire people, but I’ll happily blame a lack of compensation for businesses that can’t operate.
Ah, you used cheap labour from undocumented workers and it came back to bite you? There goes my sympathy.
As for the science, there are studies to suggest measures like shelter-in-place had an impact, and the fact that literally every form of mask reduces risk of transmission at least slightly has been established long before the nature of viral infections was understood. You could easily find these things online or through a university library, given how scientifically versed you are. But I suspect you’d cherry-pick the ones you like anyway, so why bother?
Ah, you just make assumption based on no data, I am the opposite, I actually need data to make conclusions. I “retired” in my 30s, its not about how much money I made, it was that they didnt have much money and they would have been out of work. And they are not “cheap labor”, they are humans that were put in situations outside of their control.
“you just make assumption based on no data, I am the opposite, I actually need data to make conclusions.”
So, you refuse to read the data conveniently provided to you, and also claim that you “actually need data to make conclusions.” You’re quickly losing any shred of credibility you have left.
I understand. I assume you paid them well for fair work hours under good conditions, provided for all the safety precautions, worker’s compensation, proper healthcare and all the good things a decent employer would do? Paid taxes on your income to fund the infrastructure you’re using?
In that case, yes, you’re a good samaritan and got shafted by an unfair system.
Doesn’t change the fact that scientific data suggests all those Covid measures had some impact, but I’ll take back my cheap labor comment then.
I thought so too, hence my earlier cheap labour assumption. I was hoping exaggerating the opposite would bait them into correcting me (obviously still justified á la “At least they had an income”), but it doesn’t seem like they fell for it. Still, those euphemisms and weasel words didn’t quite scream “honest and forthcoming” to me.
So you knowingly hire illegal immigrants instead of employing US citizens? What a great guy, getting that cheap labor and avoiding paying unemployment insurance, worker’s comp, social security…
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The reason I am fighting about this is because those jackasses lied to us and didnt let people work. I literally had to nearly lay off all of my staff because of this shutdown bullshit. People that couldnt go on unemployment and would have just been fucked. What I care about is the truth, not the propaganda and lies. I am not on one of your guys teams, I am person that likes to think for myself and actually look at facts not propaganda. The story above is obvious propaganda, and I will fight that whenever I see it.
What state do you live in where you can’t go on unemployment if you’re laid off? I got laid off from a part-time job during COVID and qualified for unemployment. And this is in Republican-dominated Indiana.
This sounds suspiciously like you’re doing something underhanded with your employees.
Business might be fictional. They certainly don’t care about facts or reality on this topic. Why would they limit the lies and cognitive biases only to the websites they’re sharing?
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That aside, the way small businesses were left hanging was definitely a political failure. I don’t know what business you have or why you had to fire people, but I’ll happily blame a lack of compensation for businesses that can’t operate.
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Ah, you used cheap labour from undocumented workers and it came back to bite you? There goes my sympathy.
As for the science, there are studies to suggest measures like shelter-in-place had an impact, and the fact that literally every form of mask reduces risk of transmission at least slightly has been established long before the nature of viral infections was understood. You could easily find these things online or through a university library, given how scientifically versed you are. But I suspect you’d cherry-pick the ones you like anyway, so why bother?
Ah, you just make assumption based on no data, I am the opposite, I actually need data to make conclusions. I “retired” in my 30s, its not about how much money I made, it was that they didnt have much money and they would have been out of work. And they are not “cheap labor”, they are humans that were put in situations outside of their control.
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So, you refuse to read the data conveniently provided to you, and also claim that you “actually need data to make conclusions.” You’re quickly losing any shred of credibility you have left.
I understand. I assume you paid them well for fair work hours under good conditions, provided for all the safety precautions, worker’s compensation, proper healthcare and all the good things a decent employer would do? Paid taxes on your income to fund the infrastructure you’re using?
In that case, yes, you’re a good samaritan and got shafted by an unfair system.
Doesn’t change the fact that scientific data suggests all those Covid measures had some impact, but I’ll take back my cheap labor comment then.
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I thought so too, hence my earlier cheap labour assumption. I was hoping exaggerating the opposite would bait them into correcting me (obviously still justified á la “At least they had an income”), but it doesn’t seem like they fell for it. Still, those euphemisms and weasel words didn’t quite scream “honest and forthcoming” to me.
So you knowingly hire illegal immigrants instead of employing US citizens? What a great guy, getting that cheap labor and avoiding paying unemployment insurance, worker’s comp, social security…
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