• Carrolade@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    “Party leaders” did not shove Biden down our throats. Unless you’re arguing that the party leaders of the dems are all the suburban soccer moms of the countries, and their consistency at voting. Then yes, that’s true.

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      4 months ago

      The party literally refused to hold any primary debates, or even primary elections in several states. They gave people no chance to even consider other candates.

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        4 months ago

        And why? Because Dean Philips was doing so strongly, garnering appeal from progressives with his centrist positions?

        If you want strong candidates, they need to run. If nobody good runs, then I think we’ve found the problem.

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          And I keep asking the people who say things like this who they canvassed for and they get defensive and don’t give me an answer. Much like when I ask the Never-Bidens who I should vote for instead that has a chance of winning.

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          How can we know there were no strong candidates, when they don’t get a real chance to run? They (and to be fair, most) simply assumed the incumbent was the best, because that’s the way its been forever.

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            Polling, usually. Otherwise primary results. Most states did have their primary, btw, only a handful cancelled. Each state has their own way of doing it.

            Can you name a candidate that was doing well at any point? Better than low single-digits? Dean was the only one I heard much about.

            edit: You do remember the write-in uncommitted thing, right? Those were primaries.

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              The early primary states were specifically changed to states where Bidens poll numbers were strongest. And yes, the early primary winners carry that momentum into states where they might be less popular. They didn’t have to change the primary order, but chose to, to help Biden.