I’ve hears stories of some Americans telling other people who are speaking a non-English language “This is America, speak English!” even if the conversation has nothing to do with them. Why do they do this?

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    7 days ago

    This is not an American thing. People around the world are biased against immigrants.

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      It’s not JUST an American thing. People are biased against outsiders and people that are different.

      Ftfy

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        No. That’s not a fix. You’re still focusing on this being American, while it is pretty universal.

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      goddamn bro, just let your racist flag fly proudly huh?

      You need to realize there are americans, born here, with generations going back hundreds of years, that still speak other languages. And still get the snide ‘this is america’ bullshit.

      The post may include immigrants but that’s not the entire population. what a chudworthy moment.

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        I think you maybe read something that the op didn’t write? Pointing out that “there are racists everywhere” is in itself not a racist statement.

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          This is not an American thing. People around the world are biased against immigrants.

          this is their statement - assuming anyone they hear not speaking english are immigrants.

          it’s incorrect.

  • LordSinguloth@lemmy.ca
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    6 days ago

    Happens in every country and in every nation. This isn’t a strictly American issue

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      Yep, went to france to learn french, was questioned (by an idiot) why I didn’t knew (spoke) french well.

      They exist in all countries.

      Edit: learn, not kearn…

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        Don’t you DARE speak French in France unless you’re a native speaker!

        That country is the reverse complaint put forth in this thread.

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            5 days ago

            Same.

            Of course, the first phrase I made absolutely certain I could rattle off was “excuse me I don’t speak French well”. Deliver that with a smile and they can be pretty damn forgiving.

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      6 days ago

      True.

      Also, there is a psychological effect of people either feeling excluded from a conversation, or suspicious that they are being secretly insulted when they can’t understand it.

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    As a kid I worked fast food for a few years, and there was an “English only” on the line where customers could hear. One of our managers was Mexican, and actually enforced this pretty strongly. He once told us about when he went to a Subway and the staff was speaking what he suspected was Hindi, and explained to us all that yeah, it matters sense, you tend to get upset when you can’t understand people. They could be saying anything, making fun of you without your knowing, or whatever.

    I tend to just ignore other languages (I’m in Chicagoland, there’s plenty of them) and an of the opinion that lack of exposure is one of the root causes of ethnic (and of other kinds of) intolerance. A lot of Americans live in their little rural bubbles where everything is samey and familiar, dealing with their little isolated lives, away from anyone noticably different than themselves. They’re tribalistic and comfortable there, and don’t like outsiders or change. They vote Republican because “people from the city” are bad, and they’re Democrats.

    It’s not a new problem. The root philosophy in the fucking Bible is that “city people are immoral” because its all passed down by oral tradition, and its oldest stories are descended from periods when its creators were nomadic herders. Hospitality for them vs. urban hospitality are very different, and of course anecdotes get mutated through centuries of the telephone game.

    TL;DR, lots of people need to meet more kinda of people and it’s been a problem since forever.

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    I remember smoking outside a pub near Chinatown with a mate something like ten years ago when two Chinese people went by speaking Chinese, and he said “they should be speaking English; this is Britain,” so I asked why, and he couldn’t explain why. Just on a vague principle.

  • They are ignorant, taught hate, and told incorrectly that English is the official language of the United States, but in reality the United States doesn’t have an official language. In fact before WW1 there where so many German speaking Americans that spme cities had German spelled street names, and German festivals.

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      I agree with the first part, but pre WWI was over a hundred years ago. I’m sure there’s more relevant and recent examples that could be found to strengthen an argument.

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    We have this reputation here in Quebec to be generally angry at people who are not speaking French when visiting. I’ve never experienced nor was witness of it, but I believe it when I hear people say they’ve had issues with some of us Quebs too. We have our fair share of idiots, like most nations.

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    6 days ago

    This happens in other countries as well. I’ve been told to speak the local (non-English) language when visiting friends overseas when having a private conversation.

    Generally, it seems to be nosy old people who are upset about not being able to eavesdrop

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    Because in America we believe strongly in our rights: specifically the right to tell people they don’t have the right to speak any language they want. It’s called freedom man!

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      I thought this first too. But then I remembered an interaction where one colleague of mine told another pair who were speaking another language that “secrets don’t make friends” or some such. I think it was intended as a jokey way to express that he was uncomfortable with the conversation that he couldn’t understand. He also joked that they were probably talking poorly of him. I noticed this person was normalizing controlling the discussion by throwing negative or secretive intentions onto the others’ discussions. In reality, they’re just friends discussing something in their primary language.

      Anyway, long story long, I don’t think this colleague would tell us he has a problem with others speaking a language besides English, but then he’d probably follow that up with a bunch of clarifiers that indicate he does in fact have a problem with it.

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        I used to work with Croatians and Slovenians that spoke English fluently but switch to their language abruptly as I was standing there. I thought that rude of them

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          Yeah, pretty rude if they do that to exclude you specifically, for sure. Im sorry you had colleagues do this to you. Work is much better with good people.