• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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    55 minutes ago

    My school lied to me about my Honors placement test to keep me in the remedial classes. One of the reasons I wanted to get out of them was because I was getting bullied. They also told me that I would be happier if I wasn’t at risk of failing a class. I hate that school and I want my diploma voided.

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    17 hours ago

    This is me with life.

    Other people give me anxiety in every regard and I often find myself wanting to simply hide.

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    1 day ago

    Being stuffed in a room with 20 others to sit still for 6 - 12 hours is just inhumane.

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      Ok, schoolsc are typically some variation of 8-3, which is 7 hours. I have no idea where you’re getting 12 hours from other than some crazy extreme outlier.

      During that 7 hours, you think they just sit in a room, and get handed shit after shit? That’s not even close to reality. That “massive” 7 hours is about 4 hours broken up into 45-1 hour increments after you have lunch/recess for an hour, a second or third recess that’s 30-1 hour, art class, music class, gym, ect.

      Beyond that, I have no idea how you think they should learn anything without sitting and practicing. I’m not sure if you’re aware, but when a lot of states went to in hime learning during covid, the kids did fucking horrible.

      You don’t want 25 kids in a class with 3 teachers? Pay more taxes to hire more people to be in the class. You don’t want higher taxes? Well your math doesn’t math. If you think teachers only work between their contract hours, you’re on fucking crack. All that decorative shit in their room? That’s out of pocket not reimbursed shit they bought. All the little snacks your kid gets is out of pocket, not reimbursed. Most teachers skip their lunch and they don’t get a penny of overtime.

      How would you feel if you had to buy nearly everything at you job you used, turn had to work 50 hours a week to get your job done right to be paid for 40 hours. Getting paid on breaks? Yeah, you’re paying yourself. Every check has an amount withheld so you can pay yourself over breaks, holidays, and summer. It’s not “free money” you’re paid.

      Then you have parents like yourself that have zero clue how anything works, how to even deal with working in a class with 25 kids. But somehow you have all the answers and are an expert? Sure, whatever you say.

      • Waterpumpee@lemmus.org
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        5 hours ago

        12 hours are from uni i guess. I think 9 hours happened at a-level.

        Yes you got breaks, where you move from one room to another. So much recreation.

        How would pupils learn better: focus on important topics. Dont teach about arts, music, sports. These belong to leisure time and are more fun in non-graded environments. Any institution needing those skills have their own tests in place already.

        Give them peer reviewed nationally standartized learning material for async learning. From a certain age, dont need a teacher reading the script. A video is sufficient. With a colloqium of course. Until that age, focus on enabling that self learning. Reading, writing, computer literacy. Nothing else.

        Spent 20+ years in the system. I’d call myself an expert, yes.

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          No, you’re not an expert just because you went to school. This is what so many adults think, and get wrong. You’re not trained pedagogically. Didn’t you just comment above that students shouldn’t be sitting still for 6 hours? How do you think kids learn writing and reading? It’s not by playing outside. And learning about art and music is important for overall roundedness of an education. Sports should, ideally, introduce you to various different sports, and encourage you to move. Arts attempts to foster creativity, expression, and using your hands. Music has been a part of human culture for millenia. Teaching kids about music, how it works, about different instruments, different styles of music, is again part of expressing yourself as a human being. This is only one part of your classes though. Nowadays kids, as I am sure back in the day, don’t want to concentrate on just videos. Like, you don’t understand the half of being a teacher if you think you can just leave a video on and expect the kids to learn. About 75% of a teacher’s job is basically managing the classroom so that the kids don’t cause anarchy.

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      20 hours ago

      These days you’re lucky if you have less than 30 in your class. The classrooms are still designed for 20, though

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      There’s periodic breaks where the kids who reached puberty first are allowed to hunt you for sport.

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      14 hours ago

      I would argue that rich people systematically destroying everything they can has a LOT more of an impact on mental health than air pollution

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    I don’t think it is video games, but you can probably imagine how adults who

    • aren’t actually engaging in dialogue with school pupils
    • nor have time to implement or engage in accurate training on how to improve the social skills of their students, what their relationship with video games is, why mental health is down (thanks USA government for overworking the public schools)

    … you can imagine how those adults do not make the connection that school is incredibly less social, organised and fulfilling than it used to be. Schools are now all focused on going in, studying, sitting tests, going home - they used to be full of activities to build comradery and p r a c t i c a l skills.

    The adults working in education instead decide “kids like video games but don’t like school, I didn’t have video games when I was at school, so it must be a question of videogames raising their dopamine levels so much that everything in school seems SHIT!”

    But as I’ve already said, they ignore the fact that school was literally better back then

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      22 hours ago

      every currently working teacher i know at least lived through the arcade era (i’m tired that came out weird. you know what i mean). the ones that graduated before 1972 are mostly retired and dead.

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        They may have lived through the arcade era.
        But how many of those have played there and havent become desinterested in games? And how many transformed into video game haters (just like the radicalization of democratic left-leaning olks into right/far-right leaning for all the wrong reasons)

        Even today most I know (of >40 y/o adults) arent even interested in games or at least keep the interest under locks.
        I’d assume at most <25% of teachers have any interest in video games.
        And of those 25% maybe only 10% have any interest in actual modern games and not just digital board games and casual games.

        I’d compare it to Anime.
        Maybe a 2:1 or 3:1 distribution (Games : Anime)

        Tap for spoiler

        Those numbers are my own observation.

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        I thought that too but In education the highest leadership is the most tenure and they completely shape the views of the people below them, it continues for the next “generation” of teachers, and them again and again ad infinitum

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      I think you’re being too harsh on educators. The vast majority of educators I encountered went into the field to support children to create opportunities for them to thrive and grow.

      It is a self-sacrificing profession that requires an unbelievable amount of commitment, and has uncountable factors working against it.

      It is attacked by politicians, it is attacked by the general public, who feel they are experts on the profession because they went to school… It is attacked at the state level, and at the district level.

      Teachers are fighting against turning kids into data points for college and career readiness, which view kids as cogs in the economic wheel, and not humans that have a civic duty to grow into their fullest selves.

      You can hate on education all you like, but educators are the ones on the ground trying their best to make it something worthwhile.

      There are just a lot of factors that are in play that prevent teachers from being able to teach and be teachers first and foremost.

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        20 hours ago

        I’m being nice to them, I’m saying that the meme is being too harsh on them. In essence I was trying to say that they’re too overworked for this shit and if they weren’t, they could come to the correct conclusions about why pupils have poor mental health, perhaps laying off the criticism of videogames a bit.

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      So Video games it is!

      /s

      PS. School was terrible back in the day too, at least people don’t dare to beat people up and assault as much nowadays as they’d get filmed.