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    If this guy runs for president we will have many bots going “oh yeah what about that one time he hesitated to call it a genocide”. Don’t get me wrong it is %100 a genocide but equating someone with Trump because of this would be ridiculous, he is one of the most progressive democrats around which makes for a nice jumping board.

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      Yup. Mamdani is teaching the modern left how to spread the message. There is a lot of disdain from the left on social media. A lot of us are smart enough to recognise that socmed is vapid and shallow. But we’re not too bright to recognise that that is where people are at these days, no matter how dumb socmed is. That’s why the often criticism of the left is the poor messaging. Now I understand what that criticism mean.

      Social media is the new plaza, like how radio, cinema and TV were during FDR’s time. As a matter of fact, the Nazis also recognised the potential power of radio. One of their early policies is to buy everyone a radio; so that the Nazis could control information. This is not different from today in which oligarchs and the far right also recognised the potential of socmed as a tool for control.

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    Been waiting for such a long time for a politician to do this. NYC did an amazing job at electing him.

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    Hope he’s doing a world tour after he’s done with NYC :)

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      That usually how you keep the pyramids running. You offload debt to the larger party (the state) and suspend pension contributions to the people, and say taxing the rich balanced the budget.

      The next move is to become governor, and then stop state pension contributions, and offload debt to the federal government, and say taxing the rich solved this issue.

      Then run for president. The plan will work for 4-8 years and when you leave an entire generation with no retirements and the debt gets passed to the next generation, you can blame the next guy!

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            So that debt the state is paying for…why do you think NYC had it in the first place?

            Even with this “offloaded debt,” NYC citizens receive less for their tax dollars than the rest of the state

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              Oh i get it, but the 12 billion he saved was 11.5 billion of can kicking down the road.

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        As if govs aren’t in stupidly unreasonable amounts of debt already by spending money on corporate welfare and death machines. And corruption. Let them have a small treat.

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    Cool, but it’d be a lot cooler if it wasn’t on Twitch.

    E: really depressing to see that even people on the Threadiverse don’t understand Big Tech problems and how they impact our daily lives, or can even fathom the idea of anyone making a difference.

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        Things will continue to stay the same until someone has the courage to change it. Mamdani is an incredibly influential person and has a lot of power to change the status quo.

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          Agreed, but imo the world (and new york) has bigger problems than streaming platforms 😅 Not sure if Mamdani is the vehicle for that kind of change

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            imo the world (and new york) has bigger problems than streaming platforms

            You’re not listening. “Streaming platforms” are not the problem. Big Tech is the problem. And its a massive one that people may or may not understand completely. Streaming on Twitch is not just not solving that problem, its actively contributing to it. I figured the people here would know better but I suppose there’s not even any hope for that.

            Not sure if Mamdani is the vehicle for that kind of change

            Why can’t he be?

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              “Streaming platforms” are not the problem. Big Tech is the problem.

              For New Yorkers? He’s talking directly to people who he is responsible for. Maybe you should be educating those people on the impact of big tech like Amazon owning Twitch. They’re worried about grocery prices and getting to work on time so they don’t get fired and lose their only source of healthcare. They’re dealing with unfair labor laws and apparently a horrible landlord regime. I support any effort you make towards that kind of advocacy, but you are up against stiff competition for their attention, and therefore his.

              I am aware of the issue. I don’t use Twitch. I will not watch Mamdani on Twitch. I am just letting you know, you need to talk to lawmakers about this and pressure them. This guy’s job is literally to listen to his constituents. Apparently, his constituents are speaking on Twitch. Amazon owns The Washington Post, Amazon TV, MGM, and Twitch. This is not good. Write your representatives and keep spreading awareness.

              Why can’t he be?

              Not saying he can’t. I’m saying whether or not he is. He’s the Mayor of New York City, not a senator or any other kind of law maker. It’s like saying “why didn’t Obama do medicare for all?” Well did congress propose that? He signs laws, not write them. That is the job of a lawmaker. Mayors and all other offices of governing are not offices of lawmaking unless your name is Trump apparently.

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                For New Yorkers?

                For literally everyone.

                Maybe you should be educating those people on the impact of big tech like Amazon owning Twitch

                Education is not the problem. Everyone knows, they just don’t care. What is needed is influence and courage. He has the former.

                They’re worried about grocery prices and getting to work on time so they don’t get fired and lose their only source of healthcare.

                That’s exactly the problem that he’s contributing to. We have these problems because we vote for fucking horrendous politicians that are promoted and funded by Big Tech billionaires. This isn’t a secret. They were all photographed sitting at Trump’s inauguration, and all “donated” to and bribed him. These are all the people that Mamdani purports to oppose, but he’s actually actively supporting them when streaming on Bozos TV.

                Not saying he can’t. I’m saying whether or not he is.

                We already know he is not. That is not the conversation I am having.

                He’s the Mayor of New York City, not a senator or any other kind of law maker.

                Why are we talking about making laws? No one is asking him to make laws.

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                  There are many problems not caused by big tech.

                  Everyone knows

                  Disagree. My mom doesn’t. Terminally online people do.

                  Mamdani isn’t contributing to an issue by using Twitch. You fail to understand that there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism. Not saying don’t boycott, but you are up against forces bigger than Mamdani and your issues are not a single individual, yet you project them onto individuals. A tell-tale sign of a young person who wants change but doesn’t know where to direct it.

                  You aren’t having a conversation, you’re just trying to get mad at Mamdani for using Twitch when you didn’t want him to. That’s allowed, but him doing his fucking job is not the issue here, despite it being on Twitch.

                  We’re talking about making laws because that’s the solution to your problem.

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        He could livestream to multiple platforms.

        Personally I’d enjoy a stream to any federated/open source platform like peertube.

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          The series will also be available live on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, X, and Bluesky.

          Would it kill Lemmies to read the article

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              This feels a little like a “take this great thing and find something to complain about”.

              I don’t think you’re recognizing the challenges of live streaming to thousands of people at once. This would destroy any existing Peertube instance, and there is no reason for NY to set up their own when most of the population is elsewhere. I’m all for federation, but the infrastructure isn’t there for this.

              I’ll personally choose to celebrate when leaders do something great instead of nitpicking their platform choices.

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        I mean ideally he would put it on his own website or something. Owncast?

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          Is he going to replace twitch and YouTube altogether with his own website? No. So this would just create friction for users, but not give anyone an option for moving off big tech streaming platforms

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            Is he going to replace twitch and YouTube altogether with his own website? No.

            What he is going to do and what he could do are 2 different discussions.

            but not give anyone an option for moving off big tech streaming platforms

            Again, he certainly could, very easily.

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            He’s not a “normie”, he’s a politician. One who purports to be different from his colleagues, and opposes billionaires.

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              It is not just him, but also the people he is trying to reach. Even if he gets assistance & the resources to set up an independent platform for this, he still has to get people to use it - which is a much higher bar to meet.

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                That is true but its also extremely important. And will never happen until someone has the influence and the courage to make it happen. He definitely has the former.

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          That sounds like a moderation nightmare, engagement nightmare or both. Twitch is a big established platform that makes it easy to reach people. It’s nor great but it will serve his purpose better than sacrificing the message for principle.

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            That sounds like a moderation nightmare

            Huh? What kind of moderation do you think is happening on Twitch?

            Twitch is a big established platform

            Yes, that’s the problem.

            it will serve his purpose better than sacrificing the message for principle.

            The principle is the message.

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        Because Twitch is owned by a tech oligopolist. One of a handful actively running this country into the ground. The one who paid Melania $28M to make a movie that no one wanted. (AKA a bribe). The one who’s responsible for killing more small businesses than anyone else, ever? I mean I could go on…

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              I would be happily surprised to learn that any of those sites could actually support the traffic this generated

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                These are not sites, they’re software. Much like Lemmy. They can support as much traffic as you build them to support.

                In an ideal world there would be federal servers set up, and every public servant would be entitled to an account.

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                “Where they are” is actively being used to manipulate and control them. As long as he keeps “meeting people where they are”, that’s where they will remain, and he is actively contributing to perpetuating that. Change means taking them somewhere else.

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                  They will remain there until content creators they regularly watch and enjoy start moving. Mamdani is not that. No one is going to be creating a twitch account just to watch this, nor would they do it for some much smaller platform they’ve never heard of. Mamdani is not the one that will get people to move to new platforms, at least, not before he gets them more interested in the first place. Young people like him specifically because he reaches out to them on a personal level on platforms they actually use.

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    The mainstream press, being owned by the mega wealthy, hasn’t exactly been platforming and fair in its reporting of left wing candidates in general. This has now morphed to a strategy by left wind politicians to go directly to their voters on social media. Zack Polensky, the Green party leader in the UK, has drastically improved his parties standing simply by delivering their policies directly on Twitter and other social media. This is quite likely to become the way that left wing politicians operate in the near future. They potentially seek to gain leverage to fairer representation and presence in mainstream media, although that might not even matter given the mass exodus and distrust of the people of those old platforms.

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      But twitch is owned by Amazon and frankly they can and do moderate Twitch streams.

      This is not supposed to be a discouragement of politicians connecting with the public via any means necessary.

      I just want to point out the flawed logic of saying news media is owned by billionaires so it can’t be trusted, but twitch, also owned by a billionaire can somehow be trusted.

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        They aren’t yet putting up barriers since their sole purpose is people connecting to each other. There is every chance they do move to restricting access but I think it would be the death of Twitch and certainly Twitter if they started doing so. Social media doesn’t require us to trust some group of people to choose our content for us and as such is a lot less prone to that bias and billionaire control. That isn’t to say the billionaires don’t have an effect, on Twitter what people are exposed to by the algorithm is very intentional and controlled as is the front page roll on Twitch, but unlike mainstream media its still possiblr to see and connect with the unfavoured content and grass roots movements can still form. I would prefer this was all on the fediverse but its not where the people are yet.

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          I use twitch. It doesn’t take much at all to get a ban of any kind. I’ve seen twitch streamers get banned mid stream. I think this stream in particular is likely to attract a lot of people who disagree with his political leanings and want to troll. It’ll be heavily modded and there are likely to be topics that will not be discussed because they’re problematic enough that a troll could use twitch’s own guidelines against the stream.

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    I hope there will be an army of mods, as well, to deal with the absolute tsunami of slurs that will be thrown at him.

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    i am so tired my glasses are starting to fail me and i read:

    Major Zohran Mamdani is going to live (short i) on twitch in new streaming series.

    so i pictured a netflix show where he lives on twitch 24/7 in a big brother type living room.

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      so i pictured a netflix show where he lives on twitch 24/7 in a big brother type living room.

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        This will 100% go off the rails with people pushing their own agendas, or purchased to push an agenda.

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    “Chat, the billionaires are acting super sus while hungry New Yorkers are in need of a carry. So let’s flip the script. Spend your Bezos bucks here and you’ll help the needy. Let’s goooo!!!”

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    I have never been on, nor have I any desire to ever watch content on, Twitch. But I’m glad a politician is using media from a younger generation þan þe traditional ones, and þat at least it isn’t a FANG platform. Maybe someday þey’ll start gracing whatever Fediverse descendant is around.

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      The series will also be available live on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, X, and Bluesky.

      Some are FAANG.

      btw, do you typeout each thorn or you have an extension or something doing it automatically?

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    Followed shortly by his new series ‘I changed my mind I don’t care about the people.’