• AA5B@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    I’m cheering for the FSB getting pantsired.

    I haven’t read anything lately about replacement rate for pantsirs but

    • they’re expensive
    • probably hard for Russia to replace
    • make Ukraine attacks more difficult

    Every anti-aircraft asset gone is a good step in reducing russias ability to keep the war going

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    That’s the way to do it, take out the HQ, leadership, hard to replace high level personnel, and equipment. It will take time to establish a new HQ, get people sorted out, install new gear, figure out what Intel is lost, and get back on solid ground.

    Meanwhile, Ukraine can keep pounding. I’ve heard that arms manufacturers have made deals with Ukraine to test their gear in battlefield conditions, so they are getting to play with cutting edge gear against Russia’s second rate gear that was built by their corrupt government.

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      I think it’s a reasonable position to both dislike violence and support it in certain conditions.

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    Well, that sounds like a good start.

    It’s a good thing if they continue to degrade Russian air defenses. More drones coming after Puto!

    Let’s hope that, along the way, they take out a few troll farms, too, and do us all a favor.

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    Oh my god, I get that they would’ve later perpetrated death and fear to innocents…

    Why am I internally “cheering” for 100 dead people.

    Fuck this shit

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      For me, I’m not “cheering” for 100 dead people, but for the weakening of the agressor’s army. It sucks so much that it is by death, but that is war… war sucks and shouldn’t happen, but here we are.

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        Where they, though? People drafted and sent to the front generally have few options. I get that people dying is what happens in war but casting all individual soldiers of one side as “bad”, of the other as “good” just serves to dehumanise people and excuse atrocities.

        This was a legitimate military target, but I don’t think anyone should cheer about a hundred dead people.

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          Of course we should. Russians elected their leaders, followed and cheered them for decades and supported most of their decisions including this war. Don’t get fooled into thinking Russians are just poor, innocent people send to war by their mad leader. It’s an underdeveloped, sick country that uses violence and terror to get what they want. They got what they deserved.

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            Demonising a whole people like this is in itself wrong.

            What is your supposed solution, then? How does one deal with tens of millions of people who are supposedly evil and wrong?

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              You take away their ability to harm others. In this case you destroy their ability to wage wars. You sanction the shit out of them so that they don’t have enough money to arm themselves and you destroy whatever military they have now. No one is proposing extermination, they just have to become harmless. When they are civilized enough to re-join the international community they are welcomed to do so.

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                And what’s the difference between that and the approach that was taken with Germany after WW1, which was a contribution to the rise of the Nazis?

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                I would argue that those sanctions, if general, shouldn’t include necessities like food or medicine. Also, I feel that sanctions against specific figures in the government might be relatively effective (many countries are doing this already). Make it difficult to enjoy the fortune they stole from their people.

                I also don’t like the idea of sanctions that aren’t based on specific/ongoing actions, but the existence of a certain government/regime, though I see where you are coming from.

                I would also still argue that the Russian people chose that government, back when they did choose, because they didn’t see many other options, and keeping them in perpetual destitution long term isn’t likely to change that.

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      Ill cheer externally for 100 dead American soldiers if it makes you feel better.

      Thugs serving a pedophile tyrant deserve no sympathy.

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    There’s a Gilbert and Sullivan style song in this headline somewhere:

    Find the Kherson Oblast group and you could kill a hundred troops

    Hundred troops?

    Hundred troops. Kill them while they eat their soup

    Now call the corp’ral on the phone and and have him load up fifty drones

    Fifty drones!?

    Fifty drones!! And aim them for the Russian domes

    Etc

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      You gotta do the left side of the equation first. They didn’t use any parentheses in the title though. Here, this might help.

      (Killing + Injuring) =~ 100

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        Well that’s a weird thing to do, to add them up like that. Usually you say how many were killed as well as how many were injured, separately.

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          That’s how casualties are counted. A casualty is someone who’s no longer able to fight, because they’re either dead or badly enough injured that that can’t get immediately patched up and sent back into combat. Either way, the effective manpower is diminished.

          If you’re fighting an enemy that’s not completely inhuman, it’s actually more effective to cause lots of injuries to them rather than killing them outright, since then they’ll devote resources to saving their injured comrades, evacuating them, giving them medical care, etc., all of which diverts manpower, logistics and money from their main job of trying to kill you.