A scandal has erupted over covert NATO conferences with the Western entertainment industry. Leaked documents reviewed by The Grayzone show how NATO has sought to infiltrate film and TV for decades, with UK intel operatives taking the lead. On May 3, The Guardian revealed that NATO has held a series of secret meetings with film directors, screenwriters and TV producers in cities from Paris to Los Angeles. The disclosure suggests NATO is seeking to employ the entertainment industry in its […]
I’ve seen loads of people say this but never any proof of anyone in the Russian government saying anything of the sort. Would you happen to have any to hand?
You know who started this war 3-day special military operation, right?
The west backing a banderite coup who then went on an ethnic cleansing bend of ethnic Russians as well as trying to then pivot the country away from neutrality towards a hostile military alliance certainly absolutely is completely irrelevant as we all know history started in 2022.
I’ve seen loads of people say this but never any proof of anyone in the Russian government saying anything of the sort. Would you happen to have any to hand?
Or could be 1994 is better: Budapest Memorandum: prohibited Russia, the United States, and the United Kingdom from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, “except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations”. As a result of the memorandum and other agreements, between 1993 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons.
Your first source doesn’t prove anything. Newspapers pre-write victory, obituary, and election-result pieces all the time; an accidentally published state-media article is embarrassing, not proof that the Russian government officially said “three days.” Lukashenko is, last time I checked, not a member of the Russian government. And the Putin “two weeks” claim traces back to some EU diplomat saying Putin said it privately, while Russia denies it. Maybe true, maybe not, but still not proof. All of this still leaves me confused as to why, seemingly all at once a while back, every lib on earth decided Russia/Putin had declared it a “3-day special military operation.”
On 2014, skipping the Western-backed Banderite coup and jumping straight to Crimea and “little green men,” while leaving out the fact that locals actively petitioned and asked Russia to intervene against Banderite violence and ethnic cleansing, is certainly a choice.
You also brush past the Donbas as if ethnic cleansing and years of shelling are irrelevant. If your position is that Kiev had the right to ethnically cleanse the Donbas while Russia had no right to intervene, even after locals again asked for intervention to let them break away from the Banderites repressing and ethnically cleansing them, just say that.
And dragging up “the Holodomor” in 2026 is again certainly a choice: the “deliberate anti-Ukrainian genocide” framing is straight from Goebbels Nazi propaganda.
I’ll give a serious response to the first half of your comment though: you asked where the “3-day special military operation” idea came from, and I gave some reasonable answers.
While indeed Putin himself was not recorded saying these words specifically, it is obvious that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was anticipated to be quick and easy. Three years later and that’s clearly proven laughably false.
I understand that but do you not think it’s weird that almost all at once a while back every lib on earth almost in unison decided it was a 3 day special military operation gone wrong despite no one in the Russian government saying anything of the sort as far as I can tell.
The libs will not only eternally repeat every media spin against designated US adversaries, they will make that claim the central pillar of their world view and defend it as if their life depends on it.
Russian propaganda is when you accurately retell events in their full context and don’t worship Ukrainian neonazis as innocent little guys who could never do any wrong.
You know who started this
war3-day special military operation, right?It was definitely not every man, woman and child of any specific nationality, however you dislike it.
Nations and governments tend to not make that level of distinction/nuance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans
I’ve seen loads of people say this but never any proof of anyone in the Russian government saying anything of the sort. Would you happen to have any to hand?
The west backing a banderite coup who then went on an ethnic cleansing bend of ethnic Russians as well as trying to then pivot the country away from neutrality towards a hostile military alliance certainly absolutely is completely irrelevant as we all know history started in 2022.
There’s a few along those lines.
Maybe you’re right: possibly 2014 is a more apt date:
Or could be 1994 is better: Budapest Memorandum: prohibited Russia, the United States, and the United Kingdom from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, “except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations”. As a result of the memorandum and other agreements, between 1993 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons.
Surely you cannot be going back to 1933 and the Holodomor??
Your first source doesn’t prove anything. Newspapers pre-write victory, obituary, and election-result pieces all the time; an accidentally published state-media article is embarrassing, not proof that the Russian government officially said “three days.” Lukashenko is, last time I checked, not a member of the Russian government. And the Putin “two weeks” claim traces back to some EU diplomat saying Putin said it privately, while Russia denies it. Maybe true, maybe not, but still not proof. All of this still leaves me confused as to why, seemingly all at once a while back, every lib on earth decided Russia/Putin had declared it a “3-day special military operation.”
On 2014, skipping the Western-backed Banderite coup and jumping straight to Crimea and “little green men,” while leaving out the fact that locals actively petitioned and asked Russia to intervene against Banderite violence and ethnic cleansing, is certainly a choice.
You also brush past the Donbas as if ethnic cleansing and years of shelling are irrelevant. If your position is that Kiev had the right to ethnically cleanse the Donbas while Russia had no right to intervene, even after locals again asked for intervention to let them break away from the Banderites repressing and ethnically cleansing them, just say that.
And dragging up “the Holodomor” in 2026 is again certainly a choice: the “deliberate anti-Ukrainian genocide” framing is straight from Goebbels Nazi propaganda.
I’ll give a serious response to the first half of your comment though: you asked where the “3-day special military operation” idea came from, and I gave some reasonable answers.
While indeed Putin himself was not recorded saying these words specifically, it is obvious that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was anticipated to be quick and easy. Three years later and that’s clearly proven laughably false.
I understand that but do you not think it’s weird that almost all at once a while back every lib on earth almost in unison decided it was a 3 day special military operation gone wrong despite no one in the Russian government saying anything of the sort as far as I can tell.
The libs will not only eternally repeat every media spin against designated US adversaries, they will make that claim the central pillar of their world view and defend it as if their life depends on it.
Oh sorry I missed that I was speaking to a Russian propagandist, never mind. Carry on. I should have been clued in by the use of “Banderite”
Russian propaganda is when you accurately retell events in their full context and don’t worship Ukrainian neonazis as innocent little guys who could never do any wrong.