• 秦始皇帝@lemmy.ml
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    2 天前

    Your first source doesn’t prove anything. Newspapers pre-write victory, obituary, and election-result pieces all the time; an accidentally published state-media article is embarrassing, not proof that the Russian government officially said “three days.” Lukashenko is, last time I checked, not a member of the Russian government. And the Putin “two weeks” claim traces back to some EU diplomat saying Putin said it privately, while Russia denies it. Maybe true, maybe not, but still not proof. All of this still leaves me confused as to why, seemingly all at once a while back, every lib on earth decided Russia/Putin had declared it a “3-day special military operation.”

    On 2014, skipping the Western-backed Banderite coup and jumping straight to Crimea and “little green men,” while leaving out the fact that locals actively petitioned and asked Russia to intervene against Banderite violence and ethnic cleansing, is certainly a choice.

    You also brush past the Donbas as if ethnic cleansing and years of shelling are irrelevant. If your position is that Kiev had the right to ethnically cleanse the Donbas while Russia had no right to intervene, even after locals again asked for intervention to let them break away from the Banderites repressing and ethnically cleansing them, just say that.

    And dragging up “the Holodomor” in 2026 is again certainly a choice: the “deliberate anti-Ukrainian genocide” framing is straight from Goebbels Nazi propaganda.

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      I’ll give a serious response to the first half of your comment though: you asked where the “3-day special military operation” idea came from, and I gave some reasonable answers.

      While indeed Putin himself was not recorded saying these words specifically, it is obvious that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was anticipated to be quick and easy. Three years later and that’s clearly proven laughably false.

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        I understand that but do you not think it’s weird that almost all at once a while back every lib on earth almost in unison decided it was a 3 day special military operation gone wrong despite no one in the Russian government saying anything of the sort as far as I can tell.

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          The libs will not only eternally repeat every media spin against designated US adversaries, they will make that claim the central pillar of their world view and defend it as if their life depends on it.

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      Oh sorry I missed that I was speaking to a Russian propagandist, never mind. Carry on. I should have been clued in by the use of “Banderite”

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        Russian propaganda is when you accurately retell events in their full context and don’t worship Ukrainian neonazis as innocent little guys who could never do any wrong.