Many people on lemmy.ml deeply respect and admire authoritarian governments and organizations.
Iran, China, North Korea, Soviet Union…
The West has many flaws. But our flaws are nothing compared to these guys.
Iran hangs homosexuals. Iran shot 30,000 people in less than than 2 weeks. The Soviet Union had to build a fucking Iron wall to prevent people from escaping. The Soviets lied about the Chernobyl nuclear explosion. China censors the internet. China wants to eliminate Islam. North Korea is a totalitarian hellscape. Watching anime is a crime.
Why is lemmy.ml so fascinated with authoritarians?
I blocked the entire lemmy.ml. After a few months of paying attention I found that there were no thoughtful or interesting posts or comments from any user there, only glorification of authoritarians.
i blocked them because .ml users constantly harass me, telling me what a brainwashed idiot I am for not thinking China is a utopia.
I don’t block them. I just keep pressing them for an explanation of their personal philosophy. Not regurgitated, preconstructed points, actual personal philosophy. It usually goes “accusation of fascism/zionist”, “bad faith/strawman/red herring/I don’t have to explain it to you”, “you’re a nihilistic anarchist”, non-sequitur, list of actions they’ve taken irl but can’t/won’t break anonymity to prove (anybody can claim they’ve done anything in an anonymous forum), and finally inform me they’re blocking me. I mean, that’s great, block me online. I still exist in the real world and you’re going to have to face me someday. Unless of course you empower your own authoritarian regime that will keep my constant demands for your individual opinion and “nihilistic anarchist” viewpoints blocked from society. Which is what I think they want, zero challenge from any source or counter philosophy.
i feel like thier accusation of zionism, is just the same thing as being anti-semetic in a way too.
That is a good summary.
I see this refrain a ton but have not had the same experience and I fairly regularly get into arguments with them. I’m perma banned from some communities on those instances cause of the PTBs they are. The worst I received was my first ever “kys” message from one member’s alt(but them and their main were handled in pretty short order). But that was one message of harassment, out of the probably hundred or so people I’ve pissed off so far.
To be very clear, I don’t go into their communities looking for fights. But I have 2 big principles I’m not willing to waiver even a tiny bit on. Those being Hasan absolutely shocked his dog, and Harris would in fact have been better than trump.
They just hate me because I have a basic grasp of economics and I don’t think businesses and landlords are inherently evil.
Who is Hasan? Some dumbass tiktoker?
Literally every capitalist theory, from Adam Smith’s to Mill, from Hayek to Henry George:
Landlords are inherently evil.
Streamer they worship like maga worship trump.
Why did he shock his dog? Not that there is any reasonable justification, I just want context.
During a stream, his dog moved off the platform she was supposed to stay in. Hasan told her to stop and reached for something off screen, followed by her flinching with a loud yelp. So it looked like he shocked her, and since Hasan is a popular streamer people made a lot of memes about it. I don’t watch Hasan, but she had apparently been laying there for 4 hours.
I don’t know if it was ever truly confirmed but I believe he did it. Hasan denied it and showed the collar the next day, claiming it was a “vibration” collar instead. But others claimed it was a shock collar that had had its prongs removed. And later he said that she wasn’t even wearing the collar, despite that contradicting his previous statement and it being on video.
She got up from the bed that was in frame, to walk out of frame.
Edit: I just want to add for the tanky blind supporters, why was his first reaction to insult his dog and not immediately check if she was alright? Riddle me that fucknuts.
Why do right wingers and “both sidesers” always imagine the left uplifts cults of personality like they do? Lefties mostly don’t care about this guy. His fanboys stan the guy pretty hard but his fanboys ain’t “the left.”
I am left, I just didn’t like how he shocked his dog.
But you care about the guy. The left at large doesn’t know who he is in the first place and the only people I ever see bring him up are zionists and maga.
And just to be clear, I only care that he shocked his dog. I agree with him on many policy level things. But good job trying to purity test me, this is why progressives can’t get shit off the ground, cause of reactionaries like you
Lol, I have a very public and robust comment history that shows you are completely full of shit.
right, so an abusive narcissistic POS person they wish they could be.
make sense he’d abuse his dog rather than train it. god forbid you like… have empathy or compassion for another living thing and use that to bond with it… lol
i blocked the triads, hexbear, lemmygrad, ml. lemmygrad is less of a problem since i dont see thier posts as much anyways, usually its mostly ml or hexbear, and they have taken over some other instances too.