most happy and healthy kids have a unique desire to learn and trying to suppress that is unhealthy

things like screen time, finish your plate, etc

screen time is just a limit on time to learn if the kid is using it for the right purposes which you should teach them to

“finish your plate” I was never told that as a kid and I devour anything that is given to me

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    screen time is just a limit on time to learn if the kid is using it for the right purposes which you should teach them to

    Part of that is teaching them moderation. Spending 12 hours a day on a screen, even if “learning”, is not healthy.

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        Well for one thing, those are 12 hours where you’re not moving whatsoever. Going outside, doing sports, talking to people in real life etc are all important for our physical and mental health.

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            …And you’re constantly looking at that screen while moving? Obviously, nobody would count riding a bike with a speedometer screen as “screen time”.

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            No, you have lost touch or you have never been in touch with the many possibilities and opportunities for growth and learning which exist outside of electronic devices. I am not remotely saying there is nothing of value online, or within technology. There is incredible value and a staggering amount of information (of various quality). But when you attain more wisdom you will see that that also applies to things outside of electronic devices and denying yourself that information and interaction is rejecting knowledge and personal growth.

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              I learn a bunch of stuff both online and offline

              assuming “outside electronic devices” includes their insides such as MCUs, MPUs, ICs, etc

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                I do believe you have learned plenty outside of interacting with electronic devices. And I am not saying you have to leave your niche either, if you are fulfilled and stimulated that’s great.

                But to suggest that you can learn and understand everything within your tiny bubble is really demonstrating a lack of depth and wisdom… At least you should be able to understand and accept that you are choosing to disengage with a vast amount of knowledge that cannot be provided by your current sphere of interest. If you accept that, then that is a good start.

                It doesn’t mean your pursuit of knowledge is invalid or useless. But an important piece of growth that sometimes but not always comes with age is beginning to grasp the vastness of what you don’t know, how much is out there that you cannot even begin the comprehend.

                The other side of this is a bit physiological. You mentioned in another comment that may skills and concepts learned outdoors have analogues online (like navigating the internet). I just wanted to add that these are very different. Our brains have evolved for millions of years to navigate a physical environment and have unique mechanisms to do that based on vision, smell, even magnetic forces. The inherent attuning of our brains to the physical world is why things like using a mind palace technique for memory are so powerful. There are many other mechanisms like that which can’t always be exercised in a meaningful way via the internet or technology, and which contain their own opportunities for knowledge and growing ones understanding.