Why or why not?

If so, would it depend on how they present or their assigned gender at birtb or something else?

(Edit: fixed AGAB to confuse less people. Sorry people.)

  • HrabiaVulpes@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    To be fair, I don’t think I would date someone whose whole personality is just their gender…

    Aside from that - depends who they are, how they behave etc.

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    No. I am very much a CIS only kind of guy. Now would I abuse them or be mean? No. But sexual attraction is all about preferences. As a black guy here, will I be offended because some women do not want to date a black man? No. Their preference. Same here.

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          How so? Could you give some examples of reasons that would and reasons that wouldn’t matter? I’m not sure what these would be, but something tells me that we might find the reason for someone’s preference against NB might be similarly important as someone’s preference to not date a black man 🤔

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            Matters: they won’t date black people because they think black people aren’t people.

            Doesn’t matter: they’re just not sexually attracted to black people.

            Like, I’m not interested in Hispanic women. Not because I have an issue with Hispanic people, but because the physical features common to the ethnicity don’t do it for me.

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    7 days ago

    Straight guy here. As long as they have the body parts I’m interested in and plan on keeping them, I don’t care what gender they align with.

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      Are you really interested in body parts only? Like (I suppose you’re a straight man), a man with a beard and muscles but with a vagina would turn you on?

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          Point of order - non-binary people sometimes medically transition. We might not choose all the options to swap to a full binary presentation but target things which cause us duress.

          Non-binary is under the trans umbrella though not every Non-binary person identifies as trans. There are political enbies or people who see their ambivalence towards gender and sex characteristics entirely as being an expression of a Non-binary experience while others experience the same euphoria/dysphoria to their natal sex characteristics that binary trans people do but desire more of an absence of all sex characteristics or a mix of male and female phenotypic traits.

          Your statement in effect only describes a fraction of Non-binary people.

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          They could be. Transitioning doesnt stop them from choosing to identify with a non-binary gender.

          Are you thinking of intersex? Even in that scenario, I don’t believe that statement applies.

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            Then no, I wouldn’t be with them if they’ve transitioned. That’s part of the “keeping the parts I’m attracted to”.

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    Another form of this question is for married people, of if their spouse’s genitals one day just flipped inside-out or outside-in, would that be enough to end your relationship?

    I love my partner so, so much, as she basically saved my life. And if she woke up tomorrow sporting a turgid member, I wouldn’t love her any less. In fact, quite far from a deal breaker. Even if she, out of nowhere, wanted bottom surgery, I would support her 100%. But, with that, presenting as the gender she does is what makes me attracted to her. My brain stem loves them good lady shapes, and the rest of my brain loves this individual lady in particular.

    It’s a package deal, but of she had a package, that’s not part of the math for the deal.

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      I’m bi. My wife suddenly growing a cock would be a surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.

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    I find this is a weird question. Everyone is going to be different. If the person is straight, then obviously they’re going to be more attracted to someone who presents on the feminine side. It’s all personal preference though.

    As a straight man, I prefer my women to be more towards the tomboy side of things usually. I like really feminine looking women too, but I find the ones I’m most attracted towards look feminine but present more towards the masculine side.

    Obviously all these terms are made up though. I would say anyone who isn’t a bigot would date a non-binary person if they match what they want. Genitals are obviously part of this, but presentation is made up. Your presentation just has to be something they like. If they like it then tbey like it. It shouldn’t be more complex than that. Someone being non-binary has nothing to do with that.

    All this said, personality is obviously important. Someone can be attracted to you and not like your personality. I guess someone could not like the personality of people who are non-binary?

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      What is that last bit even supposed to mean…? Non binary people have just as many different and nuanced personalities as any other demographic. Thats like saying someone is fine for saying “i dont like the personality of people who are [black, men, tall, blonde, etc]”

      Like preference is fine but saying its the personality of an entire demographic is wild

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        The last bit was there to say there’s no reason for this to be a question, except for people who hold that opinion. I agree, it doesn’t really make sense. I would mostly group them in with the bigots.

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    In all honesty I don’t think I could handle it and I’d become toxic in some way eventually just because I probably couldn’t ever understand my partner to a level where I could consider them my partner.

    … If that makes any damn sense

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    I had an on-again-off-again thing with an AFAB person who identified as non-binary for the latter part of that time. Still had a vagina, still enjoyed PIV, still had a body I found attractive, so whatever. Only real difficulty was cutting gendered language out of dirty talk, especially with them being a sub.

    Admittedly, I’m kind of a gender-abolitionist anyway. Biological sex I get, I like putting my penis in a vagina. Body-type aesthetic preferences I get, but those are pretty individual in the first place: some people like tits, some like ass, some like skinny, some like thick, some like short, some like tall; there are plenty of women I don’t find attractive but others do, and vice versa. But outside that, gender just seems socially regressive. So long as I am sexually attracted to you and you like having sex roughly the same way I do, the rest is just personality.

    I’m sincerely not sure how social gender would affect my relationship.

  • Jalfred_prurock@lemmy.today
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    I am not dating a man, because I am not gay.

    A “trans man” is still a man.

    Do with that whatever you will.

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      Sometimes the chuds are so dense they say based things like this on accident and it is very funny to me.

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    This is a messy but interesting question to sort my thoughts on. First, I did date a non-binary person for a couple years and ended things on good terms. I’m AMAB, they’re AFAB on testosterone. I’ll admit I felt a little weird as their transition took effect over time with thicker leg hair and a peach fuzz mustache.

    Second, I’ve considered myself a sex-positive asexual person since I learned the term, so I’m not certain I should be answering this. I’ve always been confused when someone is called hot, but I like the mental/emotional intimacy and physical touch of sex. I’ve come to realize recently that I’d probably be okay being intimate with a woman or feminine partner with a dick, but since I would like to have kids some day it wouldn’t really work for a romantic relationship.

    Third, that partner has half-jokingly said that you have to be a little gay to date them, so I don’t know that any person that would date a non-binary person can call themself 100% straight, which means technically nobody should be answering this question at all :P

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      Ace enby lesbian here. I generally feel the same way. I’m attracted to femininity, equipment really doesn’t factor into how I feel about a woman. Or about femme-presenting people in general. I just think girls are pretty.

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    As a straight man I am attracted to women. I have seen plenty AFAB enbys who are attractive. I have also seen plenty of AMAB trans women who are attractive. I have seen plenty of AFAB women who are attractive.

    I once heard that sexual attraction is just a vibe and I really like that description. So if they hit my vibe I am in.

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    I’ve gone on dates with non-binary people, but usually they have off-putting personalities and beliefs or were quite rude and weird.

    I get matches from them on dating apps too, but again, usually they are very hostile/angry or have other off-putting life-style stuff, like being poly, so I just don’t bother engaging.

    I’d have no issue being in a relationship with a person, if they didn’t have the baggage or weird off-putting beliefs that seem to come with being non-binary. Especially the ‘edgelord’ personality nonsense that seems to be really common among queer/non-binary people. I have met queer folks who weren’t like that, but only in a non-romantic context, in romantic context the ones i attract are very much the teenage edgelords.

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      I wonder how much of that rudeness/hostility is because they quickly clocked you as a very judgemental person and were annoyed at wasting their time going on said date?

      Queer people have to deal with a lot of entitled, judgemental people (particularly those willing to date cishet men). You can only encounter so many people who think themselves better than you or who exhibit traits like toxic masculinity or prejudicial beliefs before becoming jaded.

      It’s not necessarily you, it’s all the shitty people that came before you that set the bar so low that it’s underground. You need to show you’re at least better than that abysmally low standard before someone’s likely to open up to you.

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        Yeah, I do notice a lot of people with shitty attitudes and toxic personalities call me judgemental.

        And I also notice people who don’t have those personalities, like me.

        I wonder why that is? I can’t think of any reason… many it’s like when the tankies on lemmy tell me i’m an ignorant and brainwashed by capitalism if i don’t think China is a utopian state?

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    I’m not into penis, personally. That caveat outta the way: I’ve had nothing but good to downright incredible relationships with non-binary people. Stable? fuck no (neither was I at the time) but incredible. 10/10 would try again. With someone less crazy than I am next time.

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    I mean, if I’m attracted to them and was looking for someone, I might be willing to shoot my shot.

    Otherwise, since I’m not looking for a partner, no. Doesn’t matter who they are or what their gender or sex is.