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Education has no bearing on intellect. Or appropriate life experience.
Also, when people say someone is stupid, crazy, etc, it’s because they don’t understand that person’s perspective.
Yep. Education isn’t inclusive of neurodiversity, non white western ethnic groups, or just different types of intelligence. Academic isn’t intelligence
College degrees mean you can read and write with a purpose. It doesn’t mean you can think. There’s a reasons you don’t see a ton of conservatives in research science.
I taught college for a few years.
Only about 10-20% of my students showed any evidence of engagement or understanding with the material.
The other 60% were just parroting everything, but that’s good enough to get B/C and pass the class and that’s all they care about.
And about 20% were total idiots who didn’t belong in a college classroom, but the school won’t fail them even when they cheat because money. 10% of my students cheated and I reported them and only about 3% of those that cheat get punished for it, the others get passed with a low grade.
These ratios hold pretty true with regards to competency in the workplace, too.
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Cause education is not equal to intelligence.
Work at a university; try telling that to the academics. Some of them are phenomenally simple. They may be convinced of intellectual superiority because they’re a world expert in frog genders, but they struggle to solve simple problems or absorb reasoning without having it dumbed down.
A university is like a daycare for those adults. And the trantrums and toy throwing they have with each other, oh my god. Daily I wonder how some of these people would survive if they ever had to leave school.
Academia is a good walled garden for those hyper specialized researchers. They progress research and the institution acts as a patron and sanctuary from the world. Perhaps we should reward continued general education though
Reminds me of a joke from Ghostbusters, when Ray and Peter are kicked out of the university:
“You don’t know what it’s like in the private sector. They expect results!”
It also seems that the more specific a person’s education gets, it replaces general knowledge and thinking. For many it seems their entire thought process changes to focus on that specific thing, to the detriment of anything else. Doctorates seem to be less capable of working outside their specific focused niche compared to those with lower degrees. They’ve spent so much time focusing that they can’t unfocus very well.
To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom.
-Charles Haddon Spurgeon
Simpler & clearer:
Intelligence is solving-the-problem-efficiently/quickly…
Wisdom is realizing we’d been solving the wrong problem, & working-out what the right-problem is…
Wisdom’s meta-intelligence.
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This is the real answer. Most people conflate the two.
I know someone who earns six figures who can’t spell, doesn’t know that he’s Caucasian, doesn’t know the difference between Chinese and Japanese people, thinks it’s a fine idea to sit in a swimming pool during a lightning storm, and once wrote a $1000 check to himself, thinking the bank would honor it and he’d suddenly have an extra $1000 in the bank.
I’m continually amazed at how fucking idiots have jobs, buy houses and cars and stuff.
most of them inherited their money.
most stupid people I meet who have all that stuff, it’s because most of it was inherited from mom and dad, or mom and dad had the connections to get them a 100K+ job straight out of college at a friends’ company.
And they think anyone who doesn’t have all stuff that is expensive as their stuff is stupid, because if they were smart, why wouldn’t they be richer than them?
Intelligence and Wisdom are two separate stats.
i’m a mechanical engineer. i know something about electricity and physics. i also have a degree in international trade.
until 2 yrs ago i didn’t know how eggs get fertilized and yesterday my wife had to show me how to remove olive pits while preparing ouur cooking.
by all accounts i’m a dumbass with 2 degrees in specific fields that i don’t encounter in day-to-day life. i have no idea how to survive in this world. i am sure others feel the same.
Marcin Jakubowski talks about this in his TED talk; theoretical physicist realizes he cannot DO anything, becomes farmer, founds open source ecology.
This is the best answer.
Marcin Jakubowski talks about this in his TED talk; theoretical physicist realizes he cannot DO anything, becomes farmer, founds open source ecology.
I don’t think they’re acting.
Some people are really good at studying and terrible and doing anything else, specially thinking.
They are the perfect drones, they are smart enough to work the machines and produce for their boss, but dumb enough to ask why.
I found that if something seems stupid to me, most of the time I just don’t understand their viewpoint. We are all living in our own world based on our limited experiences.
My mom worked as a university professor, then advisor, and what she said about college was “it just shows a prospective employer that you can follow rules and commit to doing something for a few years and follow through on it. That’s why they want the degree. Also cuts down on applicants, fewer to sort through.”
So, from someone on the inside, she didn’t think the main reason was education, in terms of specific jobs. I know in accounting I don’t use so much of what I learned and that’s a pretty specific degree. Anyone with a mind for numbers & systems could be trained on the job to do what I do.
I’ve used the advanced systems analysis math I learned in university as an actual calculation in my job precisely zero times.
I roughly think about how those models apply to situations and how that will effect the various likely outcomes and behaviours etc on a literal daily basis.
University isnt just about training you to do a job.
As much as it might seem like it, education doesn’t make a person intelligent.
People keep saying that, but it’s bullshit. In many countries outside the US, people can only do a degree if they’ve proven that they’re intelligent.
But intelligent people can be really stupid too.
“book smarts” and “street smarts” are two completely different things. My sister is book smart. skipped a couple grades, went to university twice, once for her degree and again for her masters. She’s by all means well educated.
She’s dumb as a bag of rocks. She’s really good at studying. she’s a pro at it. but none of that knowledge is ever retained for extended periods of time. Once its “useful” i.e. for a test/exam/SAT/etc then it’s tossed out of her head. I can’t recall what she earned her masters in but if you challenge her to talk about it today she can’t. that’s the primary reason I can’t remember is because she literally is unable to talk about it.
She’s by all means well educated.
but none of that knowledge is ever retained for extended periods of time.
She is clearly not well educated.
She has been educated but of none of it sticks she herself is not educated and certainly not well educated.
Sounds like she’s good at cramming, not studying.
what is her profession in?, like her current career?
she’s a teacher…that’s what scares me more. she’s teaching kids. And the even MORE scary thing is she hates kids. she refuses to have her own because, and I quote, she “can’t stand children”. Essentially she’s good at cramming/studying the lesson plans and then info dumping it on the kids. Now trying to get her to actually understand or teach you what’s she’s actually dumped onto the kids well after the fact? good luck. I tried that once. One week she taught the kids some subject on earth science, tectonic plates I believe, I asked her a week later at a family dinner about it because she brought it up. she couldn’t explain it. it was out of her mind already.
Her brain is a cassette tape😆
Education has no bearing on intelligence, or how “smart” you are. Sure, being more educated CAN make you smarter, but most people can skate by and get a degree while learning next to nothing. Plus I think a lot of higher educated yet ignorant people have the nose-above-ear holier then thou complex and can’t be told anything they don’t agree with or believe in already without throwing a fit. Plenty of educated people are very intelligent, but I think the stupid educated people make a lot of noise and appear as a larger group than they are as well. You know that whole loud minority thing.
As a person who has recruited technical engineering staff: a degree will prove only that someone has been able to write about a subject, not that they actually know anything about it or are able to practice.
The proof of the pudding is in the probationary period.
