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  • It does sound like they are careless but you also sound a little reactive. The thinking I see in your post goes like this:

    1. a thing is either wholly corrupted or wholly pure
    2. corrruption spreads from whole thing to whole thing by touch

    It’s kind of a “cooties” mentality. The trash can? Wholly corrupted! It’s trash! And it touched the table now so the table is wholly corrupted! The table is where you eat!! It’s exactly the same thing as eating trash!!

    It’s not. Truth is that the ideal is somewhere between sterility and filth. Sterility is not healthy to grow up in, nor is filth. Sterility may be preferable to filth, but that doesn’t make it ideal.

    How clean does a thing actually need to be? This is always my question. Am I serving my spaghetti straight onto the tabletop? No, it’s on a plate. So do I care if something touches the edge of the table? No.

    Spare yourself the anxiety of pursuing an ideal that isn’t even healthy.



  • There’s some logic in putting it last. First make sure you get nutritious food. Once you have, you can safely enjoy some indulgence. Number one, it won’t displace actual nutrition, because you took care of that first. And second, you’re more likely to indulge moderately because you filled up on real food first.

    So if there is any method here, I think it’s to put dessert last, not to put dessert before bed.

    However none of this explains why, after a meal, I immediately get sugar cravings.






  • Yes collective action matters. I also think it’s hard to wholly separate corporate activity from consumers. It’s not like factories are just over there polluting for their own reasons. At the end of the day, most of what is produced goes to consumers. Now, there are times when individuals don’t have good options to choose. Want to avoid plastics? Good luck eating. We do need to lean on corporations and governments to solve some problems. So let’s do that! It’s not mutually exclusive with individual and collective action.


  • You didn’t need to write a word of that. I know exactly what you are doing and why you think you’re doing it.

    it is propaganda

    Do you really think there is nothing for individuals to do, here? 8 billion people. Do they tend to just do the right thing unprompted? Is it corporate malfeasance anytime someone puts up a sign about what can / cannot be recycled in this bin?

    the incessant drumbeat pointing to individuals to “do better”

    Aha. Here is where I call on you to produce the phantasm. This is the supposed person walking behind you crying SHAME that I referred to. DO BETTER.

    Can you show this relentless drumbeat to me? If this is really an ever present voice in your ear, you must be able to produce examples of someone saying “consumers, it’s all your fault.” Show me where anyone is actively pointing at consumers, guilting them, engaging in this propaganda. If this drumbeat is so relentless it must be all over the web. Give me half a dozen links telling you to turn off the lights because you are destroying the planet.


  • I admit my thoughts on this go far beyond just your comment. This is a widespread narrative about how corporations pollute, therefore consumer footprint is bullshit or an outright conspiracy.

    People keep standing up and pointing at commercial polluting and saying “well? Which is it? Should I turn off the lights at home or should corporations stop polluting?” It’s not either / or. It’s both. You should absolutely turn the lights off when not in use.

    Here’s how this should go:

    1. consumers do what they can to conserve
    2. corporations pollute
    3. consumers get mad at the corporations and pressure them to stop

    Instead, with your now highest-voted comment, here is what’s happening:

    1. consumers do what they can to conserve
    2. corporations pollute
    3. consumers get mad that they ever bothered to conserve

    Do you see how this is the wrong outcome?

    The thing I never buy about this is that people make out as if someone is going around with a bell crying SHAME SHAME at them every time they don’t recycle. IMO this is a phantasm: we all know what’s the right thing to do - maybe we feel guilty if we don’t do it, but there is no oil company representative going around wracking us all with guilt.

    There are 8 billion consumers, with projections of 12 in our lifetimes. It absolutely matters what consumers do. If you want to reduce this to you personally agains the actions of some corporation, that’s simply bad faith. Collectively, consumer action is extremely important, especially in purchase decisions, which put direct pressure back on the companies polluting the worst, and at the ballot box, where we put pressure on our governments to regulate them.

    Please stop moaning about the injustice of “personal footprint” every time you see evidence of a corporation misbehaving. It’s not either they have to act or we do. It’s both!



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    I explained this above but their design philosophy is that a user shouldn’t be overwhelmed with every possible function on day 1, nor will they have advanced needs on day 1 like “how can I more quickly scroll to the top to reveal a navbar.”

    The idea is to make what’s most needed most visible, and tuck more advanced functions out of the way of basic ones. Then users will discover them over time, either by accident, experimentation, from a friend, or reading tip lists off the internet…

    Now if this is a conversation in good faith, you won’t immediately say “so they expect everyone to learn everything by reading tip sheets off the internet??”




  • Never. My son is a person I could never have imagined. I don’t see what relevance my expectations of him are to anyone or anything. I’m not sure I ever had any.

    Why should I? Our children are not products we purchased or objects we crafted. They are new beings coming into the universe under our care but for a while.

    You discharge that responsibility on their behalf. That’s it. Of course that means setting standards for them to meet, but even this discipline you do for their own sake. You don’t get to expect them to be anything.

    That’s negotiating with fate - about as pointless as negotiating with death.




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    It’s not obscure. It’s core. Apple has this entire UI philosophy called “revealed power” which is about the UI not having a big button for everything necessarily, and letting the user discover added layers of functionality as they go on. This keeps the UI simple in the beginning, or for people who always need simplicity, but allows others to discover more in time. You don’t have to like it but it’s very intentional.

    What’s “discoverable” is also relative. I was on a PC today struggling to figure out how to do something. Eventually I tried double clicking the element in question and that finally worked. I thought wow I don’t use PCs much anymore because double clicking hardly even occurs to me anymore. Can you tell me how any user ever finds out that you need to double click an icon on their desktop? Seems obvious, but there is no label or visible indication that this is what you should do. You’re thinking pshaw that’s obvious, but how did you learn? I’d be very surprised if you can remember.