• altkey (he\him)@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    I hope I won’t come off as a combatative redditor-type, but I pretty much dislike the framing sewn into your comment.

    When you put a regime that has proven it does not care about civilian lives or human rights into a situation where they have nothing to lose, you are putting innocent lives at risk.

    Of course Trump and Netanyahu don’t care about human lives, either.

    You can put a Hormuz strait between these two lines, ooof. No, full stop, just no. The opinionated tone skewed towards western terrorist states who started it all is unbearable.

    At some point you have to ask yourself, “is this about winning or about saving lives?” … how many innocent lives are you willing to put at risk to “win” this battle of masculine wills?

    It is a good general perception of any war, but in this case we know for sure nothing moral was taken into consideration. It is barbarians pillaging land and resources, showing their power. There is no single thought about liberating iranian people from the yore of authoritarian fanatics, but the opposite - both US and Israel would only benefit from having a foe for their forever war, and they put decades of agression into it, that waves back and support their new fascist endeavors.

    Your SunTzinian message of letting the foe escape is fitting, because once again the stable state US topped would likely become either more authoritarian or a distributed free for all incubator for civil wars and terror acts. Both radical leaders and western warmonger would feed from that like vampires. They always win when we suffer.

    • TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
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      I pretty much dislike the framing sewn into your comment.

      That’s understandable, because I wasn’t talking to you. I was talking to Americans who try to justify the US-Israel attacks in Iran as moral acts done in the name of defeating tyranny. The Iran war is overall unpopular among Americans, but those who do support it do so for this reason. I was hoping I might be able to get a few of them to see that this tactic is counterproductive, especially if they truly care about harm reduction.

      But maybe I underestimate how many Americans are just malicious, bloodthirsty barbarians. Of course, by that logic you could be underestimating how many Iranians are equally bloodthirsty. Perhaps the Iranian regime is not just blameless victims of Western pillaging. Anything’s possible, I suppose.