TSA employees have been working without pay during a partial shutdown of DHS over demands to reform immigration enforcement.

More than 400 Transportation Security Administration workers have quit since a partial government shutdown that began on Feb. 14 left them working without pay, the Department of Homeland Security said.

Funding was shut off to DHS over demands by Democrats for reforms at Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection following alleged abuses and the fatal shootings of two U.S. citizens by federal agents in Minneapolis earlier this year.

There has also been a national callout rate of 10% at TSA on more than half the days of the last week, Lauren Bis, acting assistant secretary for public affairs at DHS, said Saturday in response to questions.

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        ICE is completely untrained and ignorant of what the TSA does, if TSA walked today all airports would basically shut down.

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            They’d need to make a choice to declare the TSA is all for show or shut down in my mind. What do you imagine they’d do?

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              I wouldn’t have a clue. Nothing this administration does makes sense. Just imagine the most self-serving, ineffective, grifting option and choose that. Seems to be what the admin likes to do.

              As far as the TSA goes I seem to be saying this a lot… think of how privatization f’s up everything. Whenever costs or profits are placed against safety, safety loses every time. Think of the single ATC controller events lately that have likely contributed to deaths: The DCA mid-air collision, and just the other day the LGA aircraft and vehicle collision. While it’s impossible to prove a negative, it’s highly likely that had there been additional controllers dedicated to ground and tower frequencies and monitoring these events wouldn’t have happened - not because profits but because cutting personnel costs saves money.

              The airport security was done by private contractors prior to the TSA. 9/11 brought the TSA into being, and regardless of whether or not you agree with its existence, it at least has to let us know about its failings, budget, and any successes. When it replaced the security contractors it seemed obvious to just hire the people already doing for the private contractors. They discovered fake identities, undisclosed criminal records, people wanted on warrants, etc.

              There is no perfect system. If you want private, they’re gonna fuck up just as much as the TSA…maybe even more because of that intersection with profits. I’m not advocating for the TSA, I just think that giving security’s job to a corporation that will profit and make some rich guys richer until it kills a bunch of people then go bankrupt after being sued while nobody gets held accountable is just more right wing bullshit.

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    What a poorly worded article by NBC yet again. They refuse to state the truth because trump will sick his group of criminals on them, we don’t have free press anymore.

    Also, who would want to work for a broke employer anyway? We are $39 TRILLION in debt thanks mostly to Donald Trump raising it $1 trillion every 4 months.

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      its a convenient weapon created by the go, which the DEMs enabled. i think other countries would have a re-election of the govt at this point, US has no such mechanism, thats why it continues to spiral downward to oblivion.

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        Absolutely, sunk cost fallacy.

        You’re on a contract that fucks up all the time. Historically, you’ve always gotten paid eventually. You wait it out a week, two, you could say screw it and walk then, but now it’s well, if I walk, i won’t get x dollars, let’s just wait it out a little. Vicious cycle.

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    So the US is now stuck with ICE agents everywhere until they get DOGEd out? No real freedom of movement anymore and I imagine these guys are worse than cops. I anticipate they’ll make gangs out of themselves cause they’re so large and unchecked

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      We know that recruitment standards are quite low for ICE. So you can guess that every cartel will be trying to get their own people in there. Do you know who will not be bothered by cops while smuggling drugs? Your ICE convoy with masked gunmen. And if you take over security on an airport, that’s even better.

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      I anticipate they’ll make gangs out of themselves cause they’re so large and unchecked

      Cops already do this

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    I’m sure airlines will be thrilled about having their customers kidnapped by ICE during security checks. Because that’s how “illegals” sneak into the country, right? By buying an airline ticket and FLYING IN. Just think of the headlines.

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      My favorite TSA experience was how my nephew was on a no fly list and we didnt find this out until we waited through two hours in line.

      My nephews age at the time? 6 months old. The No Fly order was older than he was.

      Lots of critical thinking going on with that lot, lemme tell you.

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      Because that’s how “illegals” sneak into the country, right?

      Actually, yes. 40% of undocumented immigrants came in legally (many on planes) and simply overstayed their visa.

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        they wouldnt be illegals if they are VISAS. illegal would be sneaking over the southern border, without any other documentation.

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          Did you notice the part where I said “overstayed” their visa? There is a difference between illegal immigration and undocumented immigration. Both overstaying your visa and sneaking over the border are illegal. Only sneaking over the border is undocumented. ICE is going after illegal immigration in all forms.

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          Once you overstay your visa, you are not here legally. Those are 40% of the illegal immigrants in this country. There is a difference between undocumented and illegal. ICE is going after illegal immigration in all forms, not just the people sneaking over the border.

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              If you want to be a pedantic dickbag and focus on the word “sneaking” when the key part of the post (which was conveniently written in all caps in case you have a hard time understanding the point of the simple sentence) was FLYING IN and “illegals,” then sure, you are correct. They are “illegals” whether they sneak in or overstay. And the post was also about what ICE is doing. They aren’t only going after people who sneak in. They are going after all illegal immigration.

              I do realize that I called them undocumented immigrants, when I don’t know if they are still considered “documented” if their documents are no longer valid/legal.

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                My gripe is that we shouldn’t be entertaining the narrative that people sneak in illegally at all by being cute and saying that people who illegally overstay their legal visas who legally and transparently entered are sneaking in illegally.

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    But who’s going to grope children and ransack luggage?

    Oh right, ICE.

    Nevermind, crisis averted.

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      And this raises the question: the people who quit from TSA: where do they go work next?

      Is ICE systematically poaching all the employees working for other federal, state and local enforcement agencies?

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    I’m honestly surprised the number is that low. If I wasn’t getting paid, I’d be looking for another job immediately.

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      i heard blue states specifically pays them even with the shutdown? maybe it skewing the numbers. and trump has sicced ICE on mostly blue area airports right now.

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      Ditto. I need a steady paycheck. No one should put up with an employer who refuses to pay earned pay.

      I am honestly still surprised that after decades upon decades of doing this, Trump still manages to get away with refusing to pay workers what they are owed. Somehow people just forget that or don’t think he won’t pay them.

      In some cases there are some people who are wising up to him. The Kurds, for example, remember the sudden betrayal and withdrawal that Trump did in his first term and made it clear that they refuse to fight Iran or participate in his campaign in any way.

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      Look at the jobs report and you’ll see why they’d rather tough it out/haven’t been hired anywhere else in all this time.

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      A lot of banks have been giving 0% loans to those affected, so the situation isn’t really as dire as media is making it out to be. This happens pretty regularly now during shutdowns.

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      We’re talking about people who aren’t capable of getting real jobs. That’s why they are TSA goons.

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        what an insane thing to say. the job market in the usa is genuinely hell. people with degrees, experience, and skills still do not get jobs even after trying for sometimes years.

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          Minimum wage jobs are definitely available to those people, it’s just that such a low wage is literally not worth their time, and certainly won’t cover their student loans.