• iamthetot@piefed.ca
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    1 day ago

    We absolutely can sustain the population we have now. The majority of crops grown don’t even go to humans.

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      1 day ago

      No we can’t…

      Even if everyone switched to a full vegan diet and we culled every farm animal immediately, it would be a bandaid.

      We’re propped up by non renewable phosphate fertilizer and virtually no country tries to reclaim what is used.

      I’m pretty sure one small wastewater plant in England reclaims it, the rest gets flushed out to the ocean where it causes further issues and becomes for all intents and purposes irrevocable.

      Like, I’m not saying going vegan is pointless, I’m just saying it’s the equivalent of paper straws on a global timeline.

      We’re fucked, and we’ve been fucked longer than any human has been alive, we just haven’t realized it yet.

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        23 hours ago

        Yes, we can. The issue isn’t a lack of resources, it’s a lack of proper distribution to where the resources need to go.

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        20 hours ago

        Removing fertilizer would cause a major economic downturn but most agriculture isn’t grown for human food. It’s calorie crops that get turned into feed and fuel. We would see temporary depressions in many farm areas until they rebound into food or clothes plants like cotton or flax. And that’s only a year or two for the farmer to learn their crop. Good land doesn’t stay empty for long.

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          19 hours ago

          Removing fertilizer would cause a major economic downturn but most agriculture isn’t grown for human food. It’s calorie crops that get turned into feed and fuel.

          Everyone is agreeing with that…

          Good land doesn’t stay empty for long.

          The problem is “good” land.

          Even if we only grew the most efficient crops and utilized proper crop rotation, we wouldn’t be able to feed just humans without fertilizer.

          And not only are we going to run out, the runoff into the environment is fucking shit up.

          Like, that’s what people aren’t understanding, and I honestly can’t think of an easier way to explain it.