Edit for reasoning-I tend to enjoy mean spirited funny stuff sometimes. Creators are typically kind of shitty/immoral people but I still enjoy it. I feel conflicted sometimes but still end up watching and enjoying.
Yes, but I will go out of my way not to pay for it.
I read/listen/watch my Harry Potter books and movies that I’ve had for 20 years because it basically kept me alive when I was in the closet and it’s a big part of me but also fuck JK Rowling.
If the content itself doesn’t reflect the creator’s shittiness, yes, but I won’t pay for it.
If I know someone is a terrible person, I can’t enjoy their work. Besides not wanting to financially support them, I like to put myself in an author’s, actor’s, writer’s shoes when I watch/read stuff.
That said, I don’t purposefully look into people’s lives; I’m not into celebrity gossip. But sometimes a person is such an outlier or just so vocal about it that it’s unavoidable.
I’m too tired to really spend my time being too correctional on what I should or shouldn’t enjoy based on the actions some people do. It really depends. Ian Watkins is an exception, a horrible person, who made it easy for me to drop everything Lostprophets-related.
I still listen to Disturbed, because there’s way too many songs I like from them. I don’t have to care about David Draiman and I don’t, because of what he did.
I will still enjoy Harry Potter, because I believe the universe is bigger than J.K Rowlings to where, anything she does or says will not knock down my enjoyment of that universe. I can and will ignore her existence.
The production and distribution of much media means that it’s practically impossible to avoid.
I try to avoid media when my consumption of that media significantly benefits bad people, and there is a reasonable alternative.
For example, I don’t consume Harry Potter content because fuck jk Rowling. She is a key creative and a key beneficiary of consuming that media. There are alternatives within that genre I can read instead.
But I do use audible, despite them being terrible, because that’s where my collection is and thats where new releases are.I try not to. It becomes a true guilty pleasure.
Nope, because the contributions from my viewership just promotes their horrible immorality/views and helps spread them by giving it attention. If I find out someone s a MAGAt or other country’s equivalent I drop them like a bad habit. I have no desire to help promote their line of thinking, even if the content is benign, and social ostracizing is the only real tool I have. I have stopped watching artists, youtube channels, and such because eventually said person’s views come into focus. Any support of them also promote harm to people I care about because they may be likely to support candidates that’d hurt them.
Yes, all the time. Any behind-the-scenes stuff isn’t even on my radar.
I try not to. If they have shitty political takes or real criminal stuff at least.
A lot of the time, if they’re the writer or director, it shows though in the media.
I can usually separate art from the artist, given that the media in question doesn’t reflect their opinions/isn’t influenced by their actions.
Hitler was, if I’m being 100% honest, an OK painter. Terrible human, could have been a decent architectural artist.
Woody Allen would be more topical and recent.
This is why I dropped Harry Potter. And also, I did drop Disturbed (aside from one song, that being Decadence) cause I don’t want to support a band whose lead vocalist literally autographed bombs that were used in children in Gaza.
And also, I did drop Disturbed (aside from one song, that being Decadence) cause I don’t want to support a band whose lead vocalist literally autographed bombs that were used in children in Gaza.
Damn, missed that, too bad. welp at least there’s now more free space on my server.
Sucks bro
That’s the deciding factor for me.
I stopped listening to Lizzo so fucking fast because her actions and her art were in direct contradiction with each other.
Being innappropriate with children will also make me stop consuming media from that person.
Totally agree.
Thats pretty fair
I struggle with it and am hypocritical about that.
Roman Polanski was convicted of a terrible crime, but I appreciate his work.
Weinstein’s production company made many of my favorite movies.
Kevin Spacey played some of my favorite characters.
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And then there is Bill Cosby and OJ Simpson. I love the Naked Gun Movies and both are pure gold on screen.
Bill Cosby’s Chicken Heart routine is so fucking funny it was making me laugh my ass off until the mid 2010s… Now I when I ever I see the album it just makes me sad….
it’s 100% unavoidable. Hollywood breeds psychopathy and Celebrity Status attracts the worst of us and corrupts those with shaky morals.
Power breed psychopathy.
No, power doesn’t breed the mental illness, but it does attract those with that deficiency and give them a massive advantage. When you don’t give a shit about people because of a fundamental lack of empathy, it’s easier to step on everyone around you to make it to the top.
Yeah thats all true and a tough thing to swallow I guess.
I try not to enrich creators who are bad. Like Polanski and Weinstein and Whedon and Besson and Rowling and Gaiman. I might watch/read old stuff, but I’ll avoid spending any money on it.
Then there’s people who aren’t rapists and abusers and virulently homophobic but are still not great. I’m thinking YT creators who pull dumb and mean pranks, or just revel in the more negative aspects of human nature. I don’t watch them, but mostly because I don’t enjoy that sort of content. It makes me depressed and sad. Since I don’t like that sort of content anyway, it’s hardly an effort. Same with MAGA bro podcaster types; I don’t enjoy that garbage so “boycotting” it really just means going about my life per usual.
Generally how I operate too. The key is enriching for me. If you’re a piece of shit who’s alive and collecting royalties, I’ll do everything I can not to add to them. If I already own your creation, I’ll use that instead of streaming/renting/buying. If I don’t, I’ll just find something else.
It’s like when the owners of Chick-Fil-A turned out to be horrendous bigots. Everybody was saying “but there are so many people working there that aren’t homophobic - are you going to hurt them too?” Afraid so. I’m not going to contribute to the success of a hateful person for a fucking chicken sandwich. Working for them is also contributing to the success of those bigots and their efforts in trying to destroy people I love, so I’m afraid I can’t be very sympathetic. The job market for hate needs to have downward pressure on it.
It depends. The artist being a bad person doesn’t automatically make the art bad. But I also don’t want to support bad people. So, relevant questions to me are: Is the artist still alive? Do they profit from my consuming their work? Do I promote them perhaps indirectly? The answers will be different for e.g. Lovecraft vs. Rowling, or rereading a book I already own vs. convincing my book club to buy new copies.
Most people, even those who scream the loudest about human rights, tend to wear sweatshop clothes made by kids who occasionally burn to death because it’s slightly cheaper to not have fire escapes.
Not enjoying an artist who in most cases isn’t even profiting off of my enjoyment just seems silly. I prefer to focus my efforts on the actual harms to which I, like so many of us, really do contribute.
