Because it’s short-sighted and ridiculous. Yes Russia bombs are bad, yes some NATO bombs are necessary but many are also bad, some Israeli bombs may have been necessary in the past but are now overwhelmingly bad.
This is dumb “tankie” talk that tries to push people into corners that are comfortable for the OP so that they don’t have to use their brain and think about whether people’s world views may be more complex and (eep!) sometimes more well-thought of than their own simplistic view of “NATO bad - Communism good”.
And lastly, as many posts on here, it simply reeks of anti-western propaganda.
There is not a single good bomb thrown by Israel in history, just like Russia hasn’t thrown a good bomb in the history of the Ukraine conflict. The reasoning is exactly the same. Israel, like Russia, is the aggressor, the occupier in this conflict, since its very inception. It’s very clear from your comments that you don’t read history, and it would serve you well to be less confident about the things you clearly don’t really know about.
“Bla bla bla, hurrdurr you clearly don’t read history, look at me, smarter than anyone!” *Beats chest like a fucking gorilla
That is what you sound like.
I am very well aware of the history. The issue here is that you just can’t wrap your head around the fact that there are actual terrorists that threaten actual, innocent (yes Israeli) people. People who didn’t choose to be born in Israel, kids, teenagers at a music festival.
Good bombs can be thrown by bad regimes. Until you can wrap your head around that one there is indeed no point in arguing. Not because I don’t know about things, but because you don’t. Stop trying to sound smart because your black and white views are anything but. See you around, gorilla boy.
You know what bombs do? They kill people, indiscriminately, especially when you throw them on desnsely populated civilian centers that you’ve driven 100s of thousands of refugees into. They don’t defend against “terrorist” attacks on your occupied soil, they only serve to invite more. What are you going to tell me next, “muh human shields”? Fuck off.
issue here is that you just can’t wrap your head around the fact that there are actual terrorists that threaten actual, innocent (yes Israeli) people. People who didn’t choose to be born in Israel, kids, teenagers at a music festival.
Where have I said that throwing bombs on civilian centres are good? You fucking dense motherfucker.
Where the fuck are the bombs “protecting” the people at that music festival going, HMMMMM?
It’s fucking hilarious to see you call someone else dumb when you can’t even think through the second order events that come from your statement. To paraphrase you:
Where else do you think those bombs are going to fall? You fucking dense motherfucker.
You’re talking about retaliation against civilians for the actions of terrorists, and those civilians are packed into dense areas by the people who drop the bombs on them.
No one said you thought they were good, that’s your lazy deflection to not acknowledge that it’s happening. How can you not see this?
Sees the slur
Yeah, they’re arguing like a magat scumbag, not you…
Whatever dude, you MAGA fucktards are all the same.
Yes you’re fucking dumb if all your brain is capable of is black and white. Nice and easy, but not the way the world works. Good bombs thrown by bad people on other bad people’s heads and all.
I’m not talking about retaliation either. So if you have to tell me what I’m talking about and have to “paraphrase” me to make an actual point, then maybe, just maybe you don’t really have a point.
More name calling, and you still call me maga? Try reading my responses instead of letting emotion tell you what you think I wrote.
Yes you’re fucking dumb if all your brain is capable of is black and white. Nice and easy, but not the way the world works. Good bombs thrown by bad people on other bad people’s heads and all.
I’m not talking about retaliation either.
Clearly, which is why you said some bombs are justified for defense, and included the nightclub bombing that started this massacre of Palestinians. You may not intend to speak that way, but the words you choose carries a message that other people are picking up on. Almost like a dog whistle.
So if you have to tell me what I’m talking about and have to “paraphrase” me to make an actual point, then maybe, just maybe you don’t really have a point.
The point I made was there before I paraphrased you, and I took exact quotes from you to make it.
You’re not literally MAGA. But you have the exact same style of thinking, bad faith arguments, having to twist words to actually make a point aka straw manning.
And now I’m using dog whistles? Fuck you. Fucking asshole.
There was no point before the paraphrase. Neither was there afterwards. You couldn’t make a point if your life depended on it.
Fucking dog whistles… maybe you will listen to a flute you rat.
But this is literally how western media and leaders are portraying this. All bombs are bad, NATO or Russia or China or Iran or Israel I don’t care. And fuck Israeli bombs in particular where and why would bombs by a colonial entity committing genocide ever be necessary wtf?
It’s just American, Israeli and other (extreme) right wing media. So it’s not “western media”.
And no, bombs on an actual terrorist’s head are good bombs. A bomb on Hitler’s ass (like the attempted “Valkyrie” bombing) would have been a damn near perfect bomb.
And as for the Israeli bombs – and as I told the other guy – try to read what I actually said and not what you expect to read based on your prejudices.
Because it’s short-sighted and ridiculous. Yes Russia bombs are bad, yes some NATO bombs are necessary but many are also bad, some Israeli bombs may have been necessary in the past but are now overwhelmingly bad.
Because there is such a thing as self-defence. If you are getting bombed by an aggressor, then bombing them back is a necessary thing. This moronic meme doesn’t take that into account.
That’s alot of assumption from a meme.
Edit Addendum: I’m pretty sure the meme is a reference to how specifically media portrays bombs from various countries as opposed to any actual moral claim about bombs.
Maybe you should have a look at OP’s post history.
I think I’m pretty accurate in my analysis ;)
Edit: and yes, of course it is a meme about how media (and certain people) portray these bombs. That doesn’t change what I said at all, and in fact what I said is based on that very same premise.
“Some Israeli bombs have been necessary in the past” implies support for the genocidal Zionist entity, you’re literally defending the zios. Yes, you are a Zionist pig.
LOL fuck Israel and their bombs. Damn Netanyahu and the entire Israeli administration to hell (which obviously doesn’t really exist) for bombing innocent Palestinians.
But I did and you’re just pushing Western imperialist propaganda, what’s going on here? Israel is literally a Western colony that destabilises the rest of the region and is genociding the locals, the West has done nothing but terrorise the world for hundreds of years… Are you denying this or what?
Because it’s short-sighted and ridiculous. Yes Russia bombs are bad, yes some NATO bombs are necessary but many are also bad, some Israeli bombs may have been necessary in the past but are now overwhelmingly bad.
This is dumb “tankie” talk that tries to push people into corners that are comfortable for the OP so that they don’t have to use their brain and think about whether people’s world views may be more complex and (eep!) sometimes more well-thought of than their own simplistic view of “NATO bad - Communism good”.
And lastly, as many posts on here, it simply reeks of anti-western propaganda.
I wonder why some people push “anti-western propaganda”
Maybe it’s because the west keeps doing deplorable things.
“The west” does do deplorable things but the rest is no better. Don’t fool yourself.
And even then: report what happened, stick to the facts and don’t make propaganda.
This isn’t a news comm it’s shitpost
No shit
There is not a single good bomb thrown by Israel in history, just like Russia hasn’t thrown a good bomb in the history of the Ukraine conflict. The reasoning is exactly the same. Israel, like Russia, is the aggressor, the occupier in this conflict, since its very inception. It’s very clear from your comments that you don’t read history, and it would serve you well to be less confident about the things you clearly don’t really know about.
“Bla bla bla, hurrdurr you clearly don’t read history, look at me, smarter than anyone!” *Beats chest like a fucking gorilla
That is what you sound like.
I am very well aware of the history. The issue here is that you just can’t wrap your head around the fact that there are actual terrorists that threaten actual, innocent (yes Israeli) people. People who didn’t choose to be born in Israel, kids, teenagers at a music festival.
Good bombs can be thrown by bad regimes. Until you can wrap your head around that one there is indeed no point in arguing. Not because I don’t know about things, but because you don’t. Stop trying to sound smart because your black and white views are anything but. See you around, gorilla boy.
You know what bombs do? They kill people, indiscriminately, especially when you throw them on desnsely populated civilian centers that you’ve driven 100s of thousands of refugees into. They don’t defend against “terrorist” attacks on your occupied soil, they only serve to invite more. What are you going to tell me next, “muh human shields”? Fuck off.
No way, bombs kill people?
And more bad faith arguments after you’ve accused me of making them?
Where have I said that throwing bombs on civilian centres are good? You fucking dense motherfucker.
Don’t tell me to fuck off when you’re arguing like a fucking retard MAGA scumbag.
Where the fuck are the bombs “protecting” the people at that music festival going, HMMMMM?
It’s fucking hilarious to see you call someone else dumb when you can’t even think through the second order events that come from your statement. To paraphrase you:
Where else do you think those bombs are going to fall? You fucking dense motherfucker.
You’re talking about retaliation against civilians for the actions of terrorists, and those civilians are packed into dense areas by the people who drop the bombs on them.
No one said you thought they were good, that’s your lazy deflection to not acknowledge that it’s happening. How can you not see this?
Sees the slur
Yeah, they’re arguing like a magat scumbag, not you…
Whatever dude, you MAGA fucktards are all the same.
Yes you’re fucking dumb if all your brain is capable of is black and white. Nice and easy, but not the way the world works. Good bombs thrown by bad people on other bad people’s heads and all.
I’m not talking about retaliation either. So if you have to tell me what I’m talking about and have to “paraphrase” me to make an actual point, then maybe, just maybe you don’t really have a point.
More name calling, and you still call me maga? Try reading my responses instead of letting emotion tell you what you think I wrote.
Clearly, which is why you said some bombs are justified for defense, and included the nightclub bombing that started this massacre of Palestinians. You may not intend to speak that way, but the words you choose carries a message that other people are picking up on. Almost like a dog whistle.
The point I made was there before I paraphrased you, and I took exact quotes from you to make it.
You’re not literally MAGA. But you have the exact same style of thinking, bad faith arguments, having to twist words to actually make a point aka straw manning.
And now I’m using dog whistles? Fuck you. Fucking asshole.
There was no point before the paraphrase. Neither was there afterwards. You couldn’t make a point if your life depended on it.
Fucking dog whistles… maybe you will listen to a flute you rat.
Bold of you to say that when whole west has injected red scare propaganda in viens of their people
Sure Ivan
But this is literally how western media and leaders are portraying this. All bombs are bad, NATO or Russia or China or Iran or Israel I don’t care. And fuck Israeli bombs in particular where and why would bombs by a colonial entity committing genocide ever be necessary wtf?
It’s just American, Israeli and other (extreme) right wing media. So it’s not “western media”.
And no, bombs on an actual terrorist’s head are good bombs. A bomb on Hitler’s ass (like the attempted “Valkyrie” bombing) would have been a damn near perfect bomb.
And as for the Israeli bombs – and as I told the other guy – try to read what I actually said and not what you expect to read based on your prejudices.
That’s what you said and that’s why I responded to.
And where did it say the genocide bombs are good exactly?
there
I know what I wrote, which, incidentally, is not that.
But no, not there. Try again.
https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/39233789/19405382
Just making shit up are we?
haha I missed the “overwhelmingly bad” implying that you think some of the bombs today are good
Yes I still know what I wrote thanks. Point is that it’s not in there. You’re just reading what you want. Sorry. Reality doesn’t agree.
Because there is such a thing as self-defence. If you are getting bombed by an aggressor, then bombing them back is a necessary thing. This moronic meme doesn’t take that into account.
Western media is portraying Israeli bombs as good? Who? Fox doesn’t count.
Are you living under a rock? Seriously
Short-sighted.
Sorry.
Ahh it’s grammar. Edited and thanks
That’s alot of assumption from a meme. Edit Addendum: I’m pretty sure the meme is a reference to how specifically media portrays bombs from various countries as opposed to any actual moral claim about bombs.
Maybe you should have a look at OP’s post history.
I think I’m pretty accurate in my analysis ;)
Edit: and yes, of course it is a meme about how media (and certain people) portray these bombs. That doesn’t change what I said at all, and in fact what I said is based on that very same premise.
It’s a shitposting community. It’s irony.
With statements like this:
it seems that you are the deranged one.
How so? And please finish the quote and not just the part that you need to make a disingenuous statement.
It’s nice to see that Lemmy is about 3/5 sane people, based on the upvote/downvote ratio here.
Dirty zionist pig
Communism good, anything else: Zionist pig.
It must be bliss to live with such a simplistic world view. Or is papa Putin paying you?
“Some Israeli bombs have been necessary in the past” implies support for the genocidal Zionist entity, you’re literally defending the zios. Yes, you are a Zionist pig.
Sure buddy. Must be bliss to have such a simplistic “A means B” worldview. Kindly fuck off kid
Shut up, zionazi
LOL fuck Israel and their bombs. Damn Netanyahu and the entire Israeli administration to hell (which obviously doesn’t really exist) for bombing innocent Palestinians.
How about now fuckface?
Ok what time in history have Israeli bombs been good
The time they landed on an actual terrorist’s head who would have killed innocent kids
Edit: fucking duh
🐷 the hell did I do?
Lol Israeli and NATO bombs were necessary? Man, may God forgive you for your lack of humanity and overall ignorance.
I mean I can’t speak for the other person, but I find Nato Bombs and munitions killing russian fascists very necessary.
Try to read the sentence again. Slowly.
Ah yes, because you are so smart and everyone who calls you out is stupid.
But I did and you’re just pushing Western imperialist propaganda, what’s going on here? Israel is literally a Western colony that destabilises the rest of the region and is genociding the locals, the West has done nothing but terrorise the world for hundreds of years… Are you denying this or what?
Ok, tankie.
I know you just learned this word and are very excited to use it but try to stay on topic.
Being called a tankie by smug liberals on Lemmy.world is a badge of honour. Wear it with pride 👍🏻
Being called a smug liberal by a tankie who’s wrong: so recurrent.
🫡!
Ok, tankie.
Ok, tankie.
Ok tankie