Kim Ju Ae: North Korea leader Kim Jong Un chooses daughter as heir, Seoul says
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South Korea's spy agency says Ki Ju Ae's prominent public presence indicates she is the chosen heir.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has selected his daughter as his heir, South Korea’s spy agency told lawmakers on Thursday.

Kim Ju Ae - who is believed to be 13 - has in recent months been pictured beside her father in high-profile events like a visit to Beijing in September, her first known trip abroad.

The National Intelligence Service (NIS) said it took a “range of circumstances” into account including her increasingly prominent public presence at official events" in making this assessment.

  • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zipEnglish
    13·
    3 months ago

    Firstly, to say that Kim family is merely ceremonial mean you have to proof that someone else is running the show, that hatched all the plans, that have the final say. We don’t have that information. What we have is he is the single most powerful person in North Korea, that rule and guide the country, that inherited the power from his father.

    Of course, a king need a general and a treasurer, whether they are the one in control or not is not a known fact, and that will remained a mystery until someone close to them speak.

    So yes, with the information the world have, we can safely say North Korea is run by a single family.

      • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zipEnglish
        9·
        3 months ago

        I don’t doubt this, but you could have said the same about Queen Elizabeth before she got in a box

        I can also say the same for all prime minister and president in country without monarch and with constitutional monarch. That is exactly what a leader of the country are. What is exactly your point here?

        This requires more evidence. What’s your evidence for this? What material reasons do you have to believe that the decisions come from Kim personally and not from the communist party?

        Let me do one better: what is your evidence that say otherwise?

          • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zipEnglish
            41·
            3 months ago

            I would love to have source for your claim on north korea, because your claim on saudi arabia is all but nonsense, and is really easily dispelled with a little bit of internet search.

            And across the history, some king are known to have build a lot of public infrastructure, while others don’t. That isn’t a sign of governance type, that is the sign of the competence of the leadership.

              • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zipEnglish
                2·
                3 months ago

                You:

                For example, Saudi Arabia, a widely known example of a monarchy with absolutist power, has 80% of the population composed of immigrants without rights who get stripped of their passports and get treated as slaves.

                Also you:

                When 40%ish of the population is without basic human rights

                Wanna try again?

                Then you:

                There’s no public healthcare

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Saudi_Arabia

                Health care in Saudi Arabia is a national health care system in which the government provides free universal healthcare coverage through a number of government agencies.

                Then you also:

                no infrastructure for poor people (trains, public schools, people-centered urbanism…), etc.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Saudi_Arabia

                Public education in Saudi Arabia—from primary education through college—is open to every Saudi citizen. Education is the second-largest sector of government spending in Saudi Arabia.[7] Saudi Arabia spends 8.8% of its gross domestic product on education, which is nearly double the global average of 4.6%.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Mashaaer_Al_Mugaddassah_Metro_line

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh_Metro

                There are several other line being planned.

                  • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zipEnglish
                    1·
                    3 months ago

                    The 80% figure I mistook for the one of Qatar originally

                    No you don’t, you’re just ignorant. Next you gonna tell me south korea is a dictator state and then whoops, you confused it with north korea.

                    Every service you pointed out leaves immigrants without access, 40% of Saudi population not having access to healthcare is exactly my point.

                    You first say poor people, now you change it to immigrant. How many time do you wanna move the goal post?

                    Wikipedia explicitly says this healthcare is for citizens, and when 40% are non citizens, it’s a de-facto apartheid state with half the population being immensely exploited

                    Wikipedia also stated:

                    “Sponsors/employers are responsible for paying for an extensive package of services for private sector expatriates.”

                    Why are you running defense for authoritarian monarchies in the Middle East?

                    Is this supposed to be an attack on me or defence of your own ignorant? I see you spitting bs that can be easily debunked via a simple search, so i debunked it via a simple search. And why are you defending dictator state of north korea?

              • lad@programming.devEnglish
                1·
                3 months ago

                I thought it was 80% migrants? Also, except for the bit about permission to leave country (crazy, imo) that sounds like a normal work permit in many conventionally democratic countries, where employer also uses it’s power over migrant workers. It might be worse in practice, of course, that depends on courts

                  • lad@programming.devEnglish
                    1·
                    3 months ago

                    My point was more along the lines of specific democracies doing almost as bad, and being a counterexample for extracting political system information from unrelated data

      • njm1314@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        3 months ago

        I absolutely would not have described Queen Elizabeth as the most powerful person in the country at any time of her reign.

        • 0x0@lemmy.zipEnglish
          21·
          3 months ago

          The Queen/King is quite literally above the law in the UK. So yes.
          Influential? Yes. The current clown not so much.

          • njm1314@lemmy.worldEnglish
            9·
            3 months ago

            I’m going to invite you to go ahead and rephrase that in a way that is not completely nonsensical. Cuz I don’t know what the fuck you’re trying to say there or what it had to do with anything I said.