I keep saying this and I’m honestly surprised that some of the educated sociopaths in the Republican party haven’t pushed back. But maybe they can’t get anybody elected without feeding the hate.
The point is: Even if you remove all morality and you do not care one bit about the lived experience of other human beings who also only get to live once, it is STILL stupid to be ejecting people from the country. Our economy is built on infinite growth, and you cannot grow your portfolio of companies and/or stocks without a supply of laborers to underpay.
Good on us for driving away both ends of the spectrum – the cheap laborers AND the Ph.D academics!
edit: I forgot to mention that this is happening in the context of the population of the entire developed world beginning to level off and even decline. I feel like one of the big social ills of the next generation could be developing nations still getting the shaft on the global stage as all the rich countries court their best workers.
If you look at the list & map here, you can see that the only continent still adding to the world population is Africa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate
These are the same people when a spouse or family member gets deported they still say they support trump. So even though their workforce disappearing places their business in jeopardy they can’t help but lick the boot.
hispanicslave
You’d think that Trump states would remember the very recent stupidity they went through when they passed anti-immigrant laws and lost billions of dollars when they realized that immigrants made the state go round and what Democrats say is true that white people don’t want to do those jobs.
And then I remember they’re Republican.
I bet native people would want to do those jobs, but the real stickler is they’ll want a livable wage to go along with it.
I wish I could find the article where they talked to a few farmers in Georgia where they did increase the wage but none of the Real American’s^TM came back because the work was too hard for their soft, soft Real American^TM hands.
But here’s some other stories that I found:
https://www.walb.com/story/15626967/hb-87-costing-georgia-big-bucks/
and the failed use of probationers:
https://www.politico.com/story/2011/06/ga-immigrant-crackdown-backfires-057551
Not that they are humans with rights, they are things that they need to exploit
I gave up on that idea after covid. If you couldn’t be bothered to put a piece of fabric over your face to protect your neighbors, it’s a lost cause.
Most people don’t care about anybody but themselves, and possibly their immediate family. That was a lonely realization.
You rely on
hispanic labormodern slavery.with extra steps.
I so very much want more journalists to ask Pedonald voters in such situations just what they thought was going to happen?
Did they just think it was going to be like some Left Behind thing, but instead of xtians, it would be all the brown and black people spirited away, and leaving the economy unchanged?
You don’t understand! Their workers are the Good Ones™, not those seething hordes of criminal rapists and murderers that Jesus 2.0 is protecting them from!
Its would be funny if it wasn’t so rage inducing to hear these ignorant fools caterwaul about something they helped make happen. If it was just them I would still be laughing. Unfortunately all the innocent people who have been abducted and put in cages keep me steadily focused on rage.
Edit: Inducing
well said. I have this feeling all the time. I wish they could have their own seperate thing that only effected them and normal folks could have things normal. I have mused sometimes that if there is a heaven and a hell they would have the same basic setup as earth except you would only be with people on your level.
Sucks to be you!
Have the day you voted for!
Cry harder maga.
Don’t worry, once the camps are up and running there will be plenty of “free” labor to make up the shortfall.
Yeah, but only if you pay the Trump regime a premium for that free labor.
ORLY?
I hope reds and their kids starve to the actual fucking grave.
Kids? You hope kids starve?
Yep, end their bloodline.
How very IDF of you🙄
Republicans aren’t humans. They are sick disgusting animals.
They can choose another path.
Hi. Former Republican here. It may have been ten years ago, but I remember when I had these attitudes.
What changed my mind was finding out that the hateful rhetoric I had been spouting directly applied to me the day I found out I was gay.
To give you a walk through the very rapid shift in my psyche that happened, I went from being the quintessential trad-Christian material that Instagram chuds drool over to… well, me.
I want you to understand one thing, if nothing else; the person I am, the one talking to you right now, was always there. Finding who I was after having it–in some ways literally–beat out of me was a special kind of hell. In fact, from deconversion to decolonization to transitioning, it nearly drove me to kill myself. Because I finally found out how much the world actually hurt when I finally saw the scope of the system I had helped reinforce with the ignorance I had been indoctrinated into. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. I would, however, wish it on my best friend.
The other person here was right. Dehumanizing them only drives hatred deeper down into ourselves.
Eventually, these assholes will fade away. Some of them might do some soul-searching and make some personal discoveries, like I did. A majority will probably just wrap up their bigotry and hide it on a shelf, and only take it down and pass it around when they’re around other bigoted ghouls. But never forget, the exact same weaknesses in their brain that led to their awful actions exists in your brain too. We like to think we’re immune to that shit. The fear. The anger. The hatred. That because we hate the haters, we’re better than them. That somehow it makes us morally superior, that we want to commit their own atrocities against them as a kind of poetic justice.
All conflict ends, eventually. It ebbs and it flows, the tide goes in, the tide goes out. Tectonic plates press, and then release the tension after the earthquake. The charge builds up in the cloud until the lightning bolt comes down. The human heart is just as incapable of sustaining so much violence over such a long period of time.
I’m not telling you that you’re wrong to be furious. To be vengeful. To be spiteful. After all, these are the kinds of atrocities that fill history books. They’re the kinds of atrocities that fuel divides that span centuries or more, and spawn more conflict after the water settles.
Just remember. Eventually, you will have to put the sword down. Eventually, whether you think you can or can’t, the violence and the fuel that drives it will disappear. The damage, however, will outlive you. And it will outlive me. And it keeps me up at night, knowing that while I never took part in it, I condoned it and promoted it, even though I’d been conditioned to embrace it since I was born. I was lucky to break out.
Speaking from experience here. They are wrong. They have no idea they’re wrong, because they’re feeling the exact same–and I do mean the exact same–emotion you’re feeling right now, using nearly the exact same moral justification. It’s one of the most bitter glitches in our human psyche. By all means, punch Nazis. But once they decide not to be a Nazi anymore, and actually turn over a new leaf, and disown their past, maybe consider treating them kindly again once they rekindle their humanity.
So it took you having it happen to you for you to change?
Trash.
Dehumanization is the tool of the enemy.
Republicans are human beings, they’re just ignorant, stupid, or evil. Sick and disgusting animals to be sure, but human nonetheless.
Don’t care anymore. Did you cast a vote in the 2024 presidential election?
If you didn’t, you’re on that list.
I get it, you’re burnt out. It’s exhausting fighting fascists and calling out the growth of extreme right wing views for years while no one listens. I’ve been there.
Remove yourself from whatever direct action groups or community organizations you’re a part of. You’ll be no help in changing anyone’s mind or gaining the support you need to get the change you actually want if you continue with your current attitude. Alienating potential allies is not the way to grow a movement.
Look at yourself. You’re saying that 231 million people aren’t people. Do you understand how that looks from a sane perspective? It looks a lot like the folks you’re claiming to not support.
I realize none of this is likely to change your mind, I just keep hearing shit like this and this time it set me off. Sorry about that, have a better day.
Let them all rot and let their God sort them out.
Sane? You assume your view is sane. To me, you’re not sane. So, we can toss around what is moral an immoral all day long, but you still only have YOUR OWN OPINION.
The view that evil people are still people? Yes that view is sane. Believing they are something other than human is at best delusional (not sane). At worst it’s an excuse for genocide (also not sane).
Hate who you want to hate, I can’t stop you, but don’t be surprised if you keep getting called out for it.
And the children?
One could argue you would raise monsters who lack basic empathy for kids, like you.
Don’t care. Like seriously. Cut it off at the source and burn the leaves. End it now.
I was one of those kids. I’m lucky I survived, and even luckier that I had the chance to change my attitudes.
Speaking from that experience, they deserve the same chance that I had.
You’re in a small percentage.
Children don’t always end up like their parents. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you keep holding onto that viewpoint, you’re as much as a piece of shit as the Magats
I guess I’m a piece of shit then. Sorry not sorry.
You do you
often times they are more extreme right than thier parents if thier parents are conservative themselves. it probably depends on factors, like the child believes it at a young age,etc.
Think of the kids don’t work when the kids are Nazi kids.
Cancels out the good will with bad will. The fuckers are on their own.
How many liberals do we see on here with conservative parents. The apple does fall far from the tree many times.
I’m a socialist that grew up in the south watching my dad go from Rush Limbaugh to Fox News to Facebook MAGAdom. We went from debating policy in my teens, to debating reality in my 20s and 30s, and finally to me refusing to participate because I could see he was getting old.
That didn’t stop him from dying in an underfunded and rundown rural hospital with Fox News blaring on the TV in his room.
God, I feel this in my bones. It’s a cult. It really is. And once it has its hooks in you, ripping them out leaves hella scars.
