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Deceased financier Jeffrey Epstein allegedly played a key role in one of the largest known sexual blackmail operations connected to Russian intelligence, according to Daily Mail.
Journalists calculated that newly released documents in the Epstein case contain 1,056 references to Russia and Vladimir Putin, and 9,629 references to Moscow.
Citing intelligence sources, the British outlet reported on February 1 that Epstein’s private social network and parties were instrumental in collecting compromising material on high-profile Western political and business figures.
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The materials obtained were allegedly funneled to Russian intelligence agencies. The report asserts that the operation involved Ghislaine Maxwell—currently serving a 20-year sentence for sex trafficking—who had ties to her father, Robert Maxwell, a businessman long suspected of cooperating with the KGB and Mossad in the 1970s.
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The report references declassified US Department of Justice files and emails from Epstein’s archive. One email, dated September 11, 2011, mentions coordination for a possible meeting between Epstein and Russian leader Vladimir Putin. A person identified only as “Igor” was reportedly helping schedule a trip to Russia in mid-September.
Another email, sent in 2014 by Japanese entrepreneur Joi Ito, discusses a potential joint meeting involving Epstein, Putin, and LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman. However, according to a follow-up email, the plan was canceled after the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 by Russian-backed forces in eastern Ukraine. Ito wrote: “Now, after the plane crash, it seems like a bad idea.”
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Messages from Epstein’s files suggest that he claimed he could provide valuable intelligence on then-President Donald Trump ahead of Trump’s 2018 summit with Putin in Helsinki. Daily Mail does not confirm whether such materials were ever delivered or used.
The investigation also highlights Epstein’s apparent long-standing ties to Russian organized crime, which may have facilitated his ability to transport large numbers of women from Russia. Intelligence officials interviewed by Daily Mail believe these relationships were central to his operational capabilities and possibly served as leverage over him.
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In that email about Trump blowing Bubba, the actual point was to ask whether Putin had the picture.
And it was asked so casually that it seemed like it was the normal course of things to leak incriminating pictures to the Kremlin.
Goddamn lol. This dude was fucked man
Remember when Lindsey Graham was so against the orange felon/pedo then suddenly very nice to him? Blackmail will do that.
Makes you wonder what all Russia has on the GQP. Remember, they never let loose what they found on the RNC servers in 2015 when they and the DNC were hacked.
So…he worked for the CIA, the Kremlin, and Mossad? All at the same time?
Probably just had contacts and offered/sold leverage.
Everyone thinks ‘working for’ means that it’s some sort of commitment and only highly vetted people work in the international intelligence community. And this is true for the handlers, but most of the information comes from freelance contacts adhoc.
I’m certain he sold to other intelligence groups too.
Yes, all the fascist orgs working together.
Daily Mail attributes its findings…
The source is the notoriously untruthful Daily Mail so take this with a big pinch of salt.
I guess now we know how Putin got the pee tapes.
It’s probably P. as a shortcode for pedo, not pee as in pee.
The Steele Dossier from 2016 also corroborates it’s probably pee for that specific instance
I don’t think it’s worth kink shaming over that as much as the pedo part, though
Why not both? It’s probably both.
Also fun fact, apparently Chris Poole is mentioned in the files. Extra fun fact, apparently /pol on 4Chan was opened within days of the two meeting. Maybe no causation, but it’s a fascinating correlation. Was Epstein Q?
Apparently Ghislaine was a Reddit politics mod, so I’m guessing Epstein and her knew the influence a politics board could have.
Yep. Another good reason not to be on reddit heh.
Poole was mentioned in the context of “I went to Seattle and met an interesting guy who runs this website.”
Secrets will always reveal themselves.
I wish that were true. But evil people get away with terrible stuff all the time and karma isn’t real.
This honestly sounds like way too convenient. The pedos are the actual victims of russian blackmail?
I don’t think victims, but pinched by the trap.
If you take 'epstein is a Russian agent’s like they are imply ‘epstein likely got his girls from Russian organized crime’ and ‘bill gates got an STD from a Russian hooker’, a picture starts to emerge.
It seems to be a russian extortion ring for Intel and secrets etc with Donald somehow involved as well.
The part I don’t get is how many people are willing to rape underaged girls. Sheesh.
You can’t blackmail innocent people. That requires you did something you don’t want getting found out.
Otherwise it’s extortion.
You can absolutely blackmail innocent people. Not all information you don’t want to get shared is illegal.
E.g. If you send someone nudes and they blackmail you with: money or post online, the only one that committed a crime is the blackmailer.
Of course that doesn’t quite apply in this case, but it is dangerous to generalize.
Sure you can, but why fabricate evidence against someone when you can trick them into making real evidence?
The hard job of fabrication begins if and only if that fails.
Yep, but this sorta “revelations” move the attention away from Epstein’s clients, to a degree. More distraction and muddying the waters
People with secrets are vulnerable to blackmail, that’s why they aren’t generally allowed to have security clearance. That’s only convenient because it’s something government have done since they existed.
QAnon was RIGHT! There WAS A Global Cabal of Rich child Rapists!QAnon was Wrong =(-Republicans!
Heh, they never really cared either way. Also, there’s a non zero chance Epstein is Q.
Call me saria, that link goes where i can’t follow
Yeah, I was looking for a better source. And I don’t blame you. Unfortunately there’s much bigger fish that most are talking about. So this isn’t getting the recognition and coverage it might deserve. But Finding out that Epstein has connections to Moot, 4chan, and possibly /pol or Q. It’s not inconsequential.
It’s definitely on the more plausible conspiracy side.
Why are there so many “but IsRaEl” comments in here?
Cause this is a “look, squirrel!” article. Learn to look for stuff like this. Source being The Daily Mail is a prime example.
Your comment is a “look, squirrel!” attempt, which is called a red herring btw. We already know the daily mail is shit.
You’re not seriously gonna “That’s interesting” everyone about Epstein ties to Israel, are you?
Though I doubt there are no Russian connections, this article sounds like it’s trying to distance Epstein from Israel/Mossad. He had connections everywhere, in every country, from multiple angles, not just kid stuff.
this article sounds like it’s trying to distance Epstein from Israel/Mossad
This article sounds like the reporters have evidence for Epstein’s Russia connection. If you know reports/have evidence of Israel connections, feel free to post it.
https://radaronline.com/p/mossad-agent-jeffrey-epstein-death-assassinate-spies-fbi/
https://radaronline.com/p/jeffrey-epstein-secret-mossad-agent-ex-lover-claims-new-lawsuit/
I’m not sure about the quality of the sources.
Ghislaine Maxwell’s father was literally Mossad, who got Epstein’d on a boat, and had, I think, the largest funeral in the history of Israel. Epstein island literally has a temple with a Jewish Israel flag on it.
You beat me to it.
Israel: Nothing to see here, it was those Russians over there!
Also we didn’t kill Jee in prison. Oh you hadn’t asked?
I had only read the articles about his connections to Mossad and Israel. The Daily Mail is not a reliable source but hopefully if there is any truth this, it will be investigated by reputable media so it gets the credibility it deserves.
propaganda
Russian assets all the way down
LOL. The USSR and Israel were enemies by the 1970s, with the USSR cutting all diplomatic ties in 1967.
It’s far far far more likely that Epstein and everything he was doing, which was deeply tied to US business interests at the highest levels, was a CIA operation and that all of the program’s ties to Russian intelligence was under the auspices of CIA intelligence, counterintelligence, and disinformation.
Israel and Russia get along quite well in fact. Israel has refused to enforce any sanctions against Russia resulting from the invasion of Ukraine.
https://www.axios.com/2022/10/25/ukraine-russia-israel-netanyahu-putin-lapid-kuleba
Russian is the third most spoken language in Israel after Hebrew and Arabic. Close to 20% of Israelis.
Oh… .ml. Propagandist at work, nothing to see here.
Did you not read what was written? The claim is that Maxwell’s family was collaborating with Mossad and KGB in the 1970s when those two countries were fully antagonistic towards each other.
Yes, today Russia and Israel are on much better terms. But the claim itself should make us all suspicious of the author for making such an obviously false claim.
But more to the point, see my other comment. The only way this could have been a Russian op would require the CIA to be so incompetent it would strain all credulity
This is about Russia’s connection. What you’re doing is another distraction … oh, .ml community …
Lol, what I’m doing is a distraction?! Man, you are such a fucking propagandist Hotz.
So you’re saying Maxwell’s father wasn’t dealing with the Russians?
His Mossad connections are common knowledge and have been for decades.
Mossad is not Russian…
Exactly. He was obviously dealing with Mossad; that’s not up for debate.
Yes, totally not up for debate. Which is why it’s incredibly suspect that he would be able to maintain ties to Soviet intelligence and Israeli intelligence simultaneously and then maintain those ties sufficiently for Ghislane’s subsequent child sex trafficking operation to become a joint operation of Mossad and GRU while the CIA just sort of let it all happen and could do nothing to stop it for literally decades (or that the CIA knew nothing about it, which is even more delusional) despite him working with the top VIPs to the intelligence circles like Gates and the royals, etc.
It’s sort of ridiculous to try to tie all of this to a Russiagate-like phenomenon. The CIA was all over this operation, they were protecting him (Acosta testified this to Congress), and they were aware of what it was doing. The idea that somehow Epstein was a double agent and allowed to live is also ridiculous. The most likely situation is that this was a CIA operation, fully in line with their previous honeypot operations, and that this had almost nothing to do with Russian intelligence, except possibly for the operation deliberately leaking specific information to Russian intelligence for counter-intelligence purposes.
far far more likely
Why? Any sources?
Former CIA agent John Kiriakou, plenty of interviews (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tes2ZsAobxU)
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jeffrey-epstein-cia-ties/
Alex Acosta said he was told that by the DOJ. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/i-was-told-epstein-belonged-to-intelligence-and-to-leave-it-alone
Also, the fact that the Epstein was working with all of the usual suspects of intelligence in America - top universities, top tech firms, top financial groups.
But also, the CIA would have to be fucking incompetent for it to not disrupt a human sex trafficking ring that included dozens of VIPs that were critical to national security, and for it to be a honeypot of an adversary, and for it to be going on for how fucking long and for it to be openly organized via unencrypted email that we already know the NSA has been gathering and analyzing for decades…
The idea that collaborating with Mossad and KGB in the 1970s even makes any sense is ridiculous. But to imagine it was an effective Russian op under these conditions for this long is just delusional.
