• BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca
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    The courage this lady has is greater than literally the entire current regime. Insane. She shouldn’t need it though!

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    I saw this clip on YouTube and naturally checked out the comments. Lots of chuds calling it staged. Not as staged as Trump’s staged shooting though! 😂

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      We’ll see, if she wears a bandaid on her ear for a few days then is magically healed

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      Honestly, I don’t normally comment either way because it’s just speculation until evidence is presented, but my spidey senses did perk up.

      She goes up to the guy a little too confidently as if she knows what she has to do, then she shows no concern for the unknown substance he sprayed on her from the syringe.

      I’m not a Trump supporter, and have no agenda.

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        Lol. Lmao even.

        So, you’re using body language to read this? Holy fuck.

        It is entirely possibly, nay, fucking probable that she assumed he wanted to speak to her. She is, rather unsurprisingly, a fairly nice person, and quite personable. I have been to a couple of her events because she’s my congressperson. Fuck off with this conspiracy horseshit.

        But also let’s talk about this: She shows no concern about the substance sprayed on her?

        Have you ever been assaulted? Because fuck you. Everyone expects victims to be perfect. “Why didn’t you fight back or run away or call for help or blah blah blah?” Victim-blaming mentality is what that is. “Why didn’t you do X?” is the number one statement for people that have never been in a bad situation say to people who have. It is, quite honestly, disgusting.

        Read up on trauma responses and let me know when you realize you’re wrong.

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          LMAO, she stepped to him like a fucking BOSS. Even before security grabbed him, she was ready to take that shit head out.

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          You obviously have a horse in the race which explains your emotional investment. Reading body language is a perfectly normal thing humans do. Her body language looked unnatural enough that I found myself questioning it.

          “Conspiracy horseshit”, ok guy. Politicians are trained to duck and cover and let security handle incidents. Maybe her first instinct was off, but it’s still off.

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            It is literally a conspiracy theory, and a horseshit one. Anybody with security is generally told to duck and cover, but there is no fucking politician class that drills it into you. Sometimes you respond to a traumatic event in a weird way. Sometimes you don’t even realize it’s traumatic until afterward! Every psychologist will tell you this! This was taught in HIGH SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGY 20 FUCKING YEARS AGO, it isn’t new.

            When someone is standing during a gunfight, is it their fault if they get shot? No, goddamn it. That’s a dumbass thought that dumbasses have when their dumbassery makes them a dumb asshole. That is literally victim blaming. You are victim blaming. Fuck off or find real fucking evidence because your body language expertise is also horseshit debunk psychology. If you can find real evidence, then it’s not you just thinking some asinine theory, and you won’t look insane.

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              You’re telling me to mistrust a gut instinct that something feels off. I won’t do that. I didn’t escalate, I was being honest. It still feels off looking at it again, I won’t deny my feelings because it’s a “conspiracy theory” acknowledging how it made me feel.

              It’s not insane to think politicians go to extremes and stage situations. Especially when it’s something that pushes towards ending a fascist regime.

              People come up with harebrained schemes all the time. Anyone who denies the possibility and invalidates what others feel, has their own agenda. I never said it was staged, just that it felt off. Now go pester someone else with your over the top responses.

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                Yes. Your gut is very likely wrong. Especially because you got upset that I told you to find real evidence because your evidence is “She didn’t act how I thought she would.” For an assault. When you are assaulted, you do not always act rationally. You can freeze up. You can fall to the ground. You can fight back. You can laugh! That does not mean you weren’t assaulted no matter how you respond. That’s why there is a lot of research on trauma responses.

                You can look up the arrest record and follow the suspect through the criminal system. Look up they’re social media and find where they’re a Magahead for the past 3+ years. Let me know when you find no evidence of your theory and pretend the lack of evidence is evidence of a cover up, that’s usually the next step in the conspiracy theory rathole.

                Like, you should seriously consider talking to a psychologist because these gut feelings could be a warning sign for deeper issues.

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        Do keep in mind that Somalia is a war torn nation. People who grow up around that barely flinch at a bomb dropping.

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    In the video the dude sounds like he has developmental issues; probably an ICE agent.

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    My first reactions was that It does look staged, because of how awkward the attack is and her reaction after the attack. Gives me similar vibes as the Trump assasination attempt.

    Dont known of many people who would charge their attacker unless they see the attack coming. I certainly would not, I am not a brave person.

    Unlike the Trump assasination though, their is no possibility of a “hidden shooter” and someone being setup as the attacker. So that swings it to a real attack for me.

    Damn I hate how we have to think these days.

    EDIT: to clarify, I don’t think it is fake.

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      My first reactions was that It does look staged, because of how awkward the attack is and her reaction after the attack.

      You ever get into a fight in real life? Or have anything like this happen to you where someone tries to attack you? It’s often awkward. It isn’t the movies. People haven’t trained for fifteen years with a sensei before attacking someone else at a public event. The awkwardness is a sign that it’s real instead of that it is staged. And you never know exactly how you’ll behave during something like this until it happens.

      Or to put it into song: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P89X-j-TWVE

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        I have gotten into a fight yes, my reaction was to back off, the guys grabbed and cornered me, I started fighting back and everyone just sort-of flopped onto the ground before some bystanders assisted. It was super awkward.

        I take your point that the attackers actions were realistic due to the awkwardness. Its more her reaction that was unexpected from my perspective. Its not how I would have reacted. I will jump in to defend others, but when I am being attacked, my first reaction is to run.

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          “I survived war. I’m built different.” -Ilhan after the conference. She likely has very different life experience than you.

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          I will jump in to defend others, but when I am being attacked, my first reaction is to run.

          It’s called fight or flight reaction for a reason, dude. Apparently, her instinct in this one was fight.

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      It’s fair to critically analyze things. Regardless of the time, it’s a healthy thing to do, else you get sucked up into the propaganda on either end.

      I think this one is real. The guy was super weird and shuffly throughout the video until he finally did it.

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      How we have to think these days? Dude, that type of thing has been in the political playbook longer than this country has existed.

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        I agree its always been part of the playbook. I hate the fact that it seems to be the option most likely considered. We are in a post evidence where we have to assume something is fake until there is enough information to prove it is not.