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    “died after guards held him down and he stopped breathing”

    Fucks sake AP, what’s with the passive voice here? Was he holding his fucking breath??

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      It’s unfortunate but usually wording like that is intentional and necessary, I.E if you say “mother fuckers murdered him” you’ll get sued.

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        Lot of grey area this side of libel, especially for active v passive voice.

        The other one is when an underage suspect is a person of color you get “17 year old man” rather than “17 year old minor/child/student/driver/suspected victim of police brutality” etc…

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        A couple caveats

        1. this only applies if you’re a trusted news source - musk or trump could say this tomorrow and would win the case because they’re known liars. The implication here is that anyone that can legally get away with saying shit any other way is either a small potato, known liar or if its irrefutable truth.

        2. I think in this case, specifically, they could probably say he was murdered by somebody because they already said homocide in the title

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          I’m not saying they’re correct in not calling it that, or that the system necessarily works that way, but they’ll have lawyers to look over everything in these sorts of scenarios and they’ll, usually, ask to play it safe.

          Also, re point 2, it’s different to say “autopsy says it’s homicide” vs the paper/journalist saying that they were murdered. Unless it’s legally ruled as such (judge/court case), the news agency could be liable if they said it themselves. The headline is essentially just quoting someone else.

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    Immigration and Customs Enforcement said the 55-year-old father of four was attempting suicide and the staff tried to save him.

    …save him…

    for themselves

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      Guaranteed they’re lying. They’re just trying to act like it doesn’t matter that they murdered him because he was trying to kill himself anyway.

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      Its a waste of manpower honestly. Maybe some sort of gas would be more efficient than individual stranglings.

      Tap for spoiler

      Please dont tell me this needs the sarcasm tag

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    And those braindead maga fucks cheer it on. “Well he shouldn’t have been illegal!” “He should’ve never come here in the first place!”

    As if any of those excuses justify fucking murder.

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      They’re fine to execute civilians because they disobey them.

      Judge, jury and executioner.

      No other country in the world would accept this.

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    Ice out here murdering people in their concentration camps-

    New York court records show Lunas Campos was convicted in 2003 of sexual contact with a person under 11, a felony for which he was sentenced to one year in jail and placed on the state’s sex offender registry.

    Actually I’ll take a pass, I’ll get upset at the next one

    • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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      Everyone deserves due process no matter how heinous they are. If someone is denied due process, no one has due process.

      Except for the Nazi ringleaders, I’m perfectly ok with denying them due process

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        Congrats, Trump has just designated you a Nazi ringleader, now you don’t get due process. You say it isn’t true, but how do you prove it if you aren’t given due process? See how this is always fucking stupid? Everyone gets due process or nobody does.

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          Except that “Trump designating anyone as anything” really shouldn’t mean shit if we still had a nation that had laws. Why the fuck are we talking about due process?

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        Except for the Nazi ringleaders, I’m perfectly ok with denying them due process

        Sadly even Nazi ringleaders, otherwise Republicans will simply label those protesting ICE as “Nazi ringleaders” to deny them due process. I’m a big fan of the due process that Nazi’s received in Nuremberg and the outcome of those trial against those assholes.

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      This is the exact shit they want. They probably chose to murder this dude specifically for exactly this reason.

      Don’t fall for it.

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        speaking as someone who was raped as a child, you don’t get to tell me shit. It’s illegal, and I want the officers held responsible, BUT, I don’t care about child rapists getting murdered. Couldn’t care less, actually. Hope it happens to all of them.