• finitebanjo@piefed.world
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    4 days ago

    Fuck increased birthrates. I want an earth with 3 Billion or less people, I don’t want any of us to have to kill any of them, and no I don’t care that our shitty forefathers made too many babies who are now elderly assholes ruining the planet: fuck em. Productivity has doubled or tripled since their time, we can handle up to triple the burden until they croak.

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      Nononono, you don’t get it: looking at the past 4+ governments, I think they want to increase the birth rate of the right people.

      I was so naïve back when had I thought the Labour would be any different from the Tories…

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        Theres a world of difference between the Labour and Tories, you’re not naive just ignorant.

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        If they wanted to increase the birthrate if already wealthy people they wouldn’t remove the 2 child cap for benefits.

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        I want to passively watch half of them die, like we are doing now, while not replacing them. Huge difference.

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          Isn’t there a book with such a story that they investigate some dangerous bomb thingy that turns out to just make about half the population not able to have babies?

          I think they made a movie which sucks out of it

          I think it is the same writer as has written davinci code

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        I mean, Thanos’ plan may have been popular if he used the infinity stones to reward mothers for limiting their children, using societal pressure and other tools to limit populations for a generation.

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          He just had to convince males to not fuck with their cum active (e.g. doing vasectomy and reverse it as time comes). This would make hormones of women less fucked with, and male people would learn that it is not “she is just being woman”, but realise it was fucking hormone engineering.

          🫣 but how should males learn that in a society where sexual education is shown as evil (like yea, we changed everything on this world and teach our children anything, but o noo please don’t tell them how reproduction works, so they just try something out and are fucked for live).

          Same goes for drugs, if you just ban and say it is evil rather than why, you will always have bad experiences and shady cycles around drugs.

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        Whenever population control is mentioned, this inevitably comes up. No, not looking to “remove” anyone, just prevent more births than the natural environment can handle.

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          Or just limit1 baby per couple, same effect. Population halves every life cycle

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            Better ensure perfect women/men equality before doing that, otherwise it leads to a big gender disbalance and high infanticide rate for girls, as was demonstrated in China.

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                They were probably referring to that, yes. But most of the issue with China was the additional requirement that only men could inherit the family wealth and title so it led to the killing of female babies and skewing of gender ratios.

                They sorted a lot of that out lately and its done wonders for their quality of life long term, but they also renegged on the whole plan and are pushing growth again.

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                  The law had plot holes, just needs to be long sighted with human behavior in mind.

                  What’s happening now is different story. Maybe it’ll come full circle.

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              Carrot vs stick.

              Just give incentives to voluntarily have less kids. Heck, even just education, high wages, and social mobility (particularly for women) typically drops the birth rate at or under 1 child anyway.