• 🇵🇸antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml
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        9 months ago

        Please go read the Bible lol Every single moral value that Jesus preaches is like a straight up pillar of socialist ideals. Feed the hungry, house the homeless, cloth the naked, etc etc. If you extrapolate these ideals to the rest of society…what do you get? Definitely not capitalism!

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            9 months ago

            Man I don’t even know where to start with this comment. I’m not sure when we say socialism we are even talking about the same thing first of all.

            Second of all of course Jesus was not literally a socialist - that didnt exist when he was alive. But if you extrapolate the underlying vibe of the lessons Jesus taught they are ones of empathy and community.

            It’s always y’all religious types that bastardize and twist your texts to match whatever flavor of mental illness you have. Respectfully Jesus would find you to be a charlatan lmao.

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                9 months ago

                Or maybe when you make right wing chud arguments that are almost incoherent I assume you’re a right wing chud.

                You’re out here larping as a bible thumper and think its a gotcha when people think that’s reflective of your world view. Brother I dont know who the fuck you are am I supposed to just assume everyone is out here making disingenuous devils advocate arguments all the time or something?

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            9 months ago

            [Mark 12:17] is clearly about taxes

            It is about that in the surface, sure. But when you look at the context, it’s one of many times the pharisees tried to get Jesus to either go against the Roman empire, so they could get him killed for it, or go against God, so they could exile him for it.

            taxes are a pretty popular socialist repellant

            Clearly one of us is misunderstanding socialist ideals, because I would say socialists tend to be the ones pushing the hardest for the highest taxes. Please explain why socialists, the community focused people who know no one can stand alone, would be against making sure everyone pitches in to help the poorest people.

            [Jesus] just cared if people were following God’s orders

            You should really actually give the gospels are serious read before making that kind of claim. Not saying you’ve never read any of the Bible, but I am saying that I don’t see a way to have genuinely read the gospels and come to the conclusion of “yeah, Jesus is all about the legalistic religion”.

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        9 months ago

        So why did he throw the money changers out of the temple then?

        Why is it harder for a rich man to enter heaven than for a camel to pass through the wye of a needle?

        And why do you think communism means no work and only handouts?

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            9 months ago

            the money changing was Babylonian money magick, of which was the reason they were thrown out

            A. Where did you hear that it was Babylonian money? Babylon had fallen ~500 years earlier, so I doubt there’d be any of their money left in use. B. Jesus talks about the temple become “a den of robbers”. That doesn’t sound like the only issue was the choice of currency

            the whole point was to accept handouts for those who didn’t work

            Ignoring for now the fact that that’s far from the point, what’s so bad about “handouts”? Sure, if you refuse to work you shouldn’t expect to be given a mansion or something, but that’s not what anyone is seriously saying. The “handouts” that leftists talk about is stuff like food and basic housing. The idea is that your right to live is based on your value as a person, not your productivity as a worker.

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        9 months ago

        Are you telling me that all or most people who get help from the government are lazy people who don’t want to work? The socialism policies are implemented to maintain people lives and sanity so they can try to improve their situations