I think you’re right on most things here. But I do think there have been studies showing that attention spans have never really been that high to begin with. Not that catering to that is good or bad, necessarily. But I just wanted to point that out.
I don’t mean to be mean, but you need to talk to more people.
A lot of people in America simply do not believe they can change anything. Either because they don’t know how, they’ve never shown up to a town hall, or because the only politics they hear about are from states and federal buildings they’ll never live or work in, or because the only politics they hear about outside of Trump being a dipshit is some 2% thing that will do something which might lead to something else maybe, or because South Park taught them that caring about anything is cringe and, actually, the smartest people spend all day making fun of anyone with an idea.
I mean, let me ask another question: how the fuck do you lose interest in unions? And yet, the US lost interest a looong time ago.
There is an element of people wanting their fast food and being displeased that civil rights took multiple decades to build.
That said, it isn’t just their fault. The Democrats, generally, do not know how to be exciting. As much as people say they’re not interested, it’s not entirely true; there is a spark that has yet to be ignited.
Mostly they just want both sides to burn down and be replaced with something less horrible
But the right has enough supporters to win.
And at this point, short of the SCOTUS getting overthrown before the finish, ushering in fascism, all the politics are just arranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
Ohh screw that. We’ve got a bunch of sleepers in the left that they activate everytime the fucking race gets close, 90% of the left is complicit, selfish and owned. There’s nothing going on in the governemnt right now that’s ok and getting the left back in won’t change shit.
We need accountability, checks and balances and the scotus needs guaranteed representation
childish my ass, keep hoping for things to just get better and stay as they are or go back a couple years and watch it collaps around you. That’s myopic and a pipe dream
It’s hard to rig an entire country, but it gets a lot easier when you really only have to rig 7 states. Then it gets even easier when all you have to do is program the voting machines to switch the votes in a single race. That’s how we ended up with MILLIONS of ballots with a straight Democratic ticket, but with Trump at the top.
Do you know a single person that voted that way? Have you ever heard of a specific person who did? Has the media ever trotted out a single person, anywhere in the country, that voted that way? I’ve never heard of a single example, and yet within minutes of the race going to Trump, the Dems were proclaiming that he’d won “fair & square,” before the dust had even settled to start looking at an investigation.
They just conceded the election security of the race from the outset, as if they’d decided in advance that they knew they’d lose by cheating, and they didn’t know how to stop it, so they planned in advance to pretend it didn’t happen, rather than explain their spectacular dereliction to the nation.
That race was the worst example of election fraud in American history, and it was done in the wide open, and the Dems did absolutely nothing to stop it or investigate it. This was the one race that Donald Trump absolutely had to win to stay out of prison. He has cheated at literally EVERYTHING in his entire life. Now we are supposed to believe that the one race where his life literally depends on winning, is the one, single instance in his entire life where he decided to play totally by the rules, and NOT cheat.
First of all, I live in Florida, sooo Conservative region? Yeah.
Trump/Putin/Musk - two of the worst foreign Psychopathic Oligarchs in the world, with infinite access to money and the best and most experienced computer programmers and hackers on the planet, with no loyalty or patriotism towards the United States, teamed up with an American Psychopathic Oligarch wannabe, who also has no loyalty, all viewing America as a big, fat, lazy RICH target to be ruthlessly and mercilessly exploited.
All they had to do was swap the votes for one race, in 7 states. That kind of cheating would be difficult for individual Congressional or Senate races, but not for the presidential race. All that was need was access to the voting machines, and Putin’s hackers have no doubt been working on that for years.
We all saw it happen. Both Trump and Musk had multiple meetings with Putin, by phone and in person, during the Biden administration, and they didn’t try to hide it. It was all reported widely in the media.
And now EVERYTHING that was promised in P2025 is happening, and STILL people want to pretend that it was a fair election.
They told us they were going to steal the election, they did everything they said, the results are exactly what they said they would be, and yet, somehow there are people who still believe that MAGA won fairly.
THEY WON BY CHEATING! If we don’t address that single issue, they will do it worse next time, and he is going to win in 2028 with 98% of the “vote,” and use that to justify ignoring the Constitutional prohibition of a third term.
You can’t reasonably expect to win against a election fraud scheme that has already succeeded once, and is in the process of getting even more streamlined.
You can keep trying to find the people who refused to vote in the most attended election in history, but it will never be enough to outpace vote switching, it only gives them more votes to switch.
I’ve been following politics since the 60s, so I know what’s going on, too. One thing I’ve learned in life is that you can’t let the guy who is always winning by cheating to continue. It is highly demoralizing to everyone else. It doesn’t help that the cheater usually rubs his ill-gotten wins in everyone’s faces.
They have developed a wide-ranging system of cheating, that just evolves and gets stronger. You will NEVER win an election until you address it. Even if you do manage to win one, they will just use their short period out of power to improve their cheating strategy to win next time, which is exactly what they did between 2020 and 2024.
The system is broken, and it needs to be fixed. Just using the broken system harder is only going to make things worse. When an appliance is acting up, you don’t just pound on it, you fix it properly.
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More than 1 in 3 people didn’t vote.
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Excuse me, but HOW THE FUCK do you LOSE INTEREST in politics?!
Is there too much lead in people’s food or something?
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I think you’re right on most things here. But I do think there have been studies showing that attention spans have never really been that high to begin with. Not that catering to that is good or bad, necessarily. But I just wanted to point that out.
Do you have any proposed solutions?
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I don’t mean to be mean, but you need to talk to more people.
A lot of people in America simply do not believe they can change anything. Either because they don’t know how, they’ve never shown up to a town hall, or because the only politics they hear about are from states and federal buildings they’ll never live or work in, or because the only politics they hear about outside of Trump being a dipshit is some 2% thing that will do something which might lead to something else maybe, or because South Park taught them that caring about anything is cringe and, actually, the smartest people spend all day making fun of anyone with an idea.
I mean, let me ask another question: how the fuck do you lose interest in unions? And yet, the US lost interest a looong time ago.
It’s a self-fulfilling prophesy. Things don’t change because they don’t participate. They don’t participate because things didn’t change.
90% of things people claim are the reason they don’t vote could be changed if they fucking voted.
There is an element of people wanting their fast food and being displeased that civil rights took multiple decades to build.
That said, it isn’t just their fault. The Democrats, generally, do not know how to be exciting. As much as people say they’re not interested, it’s not entirely true; there is a spark that has yet to be ignited.
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Mostly they just want both sides to burn down and be replaced with something less horrible
But the right has enough supporters to win.
And at this point, short of the SCOTUS getting overthrown before the finish, ushering in fascism, all the politics are just arranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
A bit a of a childish all-or-nothing argument.
They can keep hoping for unattainable perfection. In the meantime, others are happy to take power.
Ohh screw that. We’ve got a bunch of sleepers in the left that they activate everytime the fucking race gets close, 90% of the left is complicit, selfish and owned. There’s nothing going on in the governemnt right now that’s ok and getting the left back in won’t change shit.
We need accountability, checks and balances and the scotus needs guaranteed representation
childish my ass, keep hoping for things to just get better and stay as they are or go back a couple years and watch it collaps around you. That’s myopic and a pipe dream
It’s hard to rig an entire country, but it gets a lot easier when you really only have to rig 7 states. Then it gets even easier when all you have to do is program the voting machines to switch the votes in a single race. That’s how we ended up with MILLIONS of ballots with a straight Democratic ticket, but with Trump at the top.
Do you know a single person that voted that way? Have you ever heard of a specific person who did? Has the media ever trotted out a single person, anywhere in the country, that voted that way? I’ve never heard of a single example, and yet within minutes of the race going to Trump, the Dems were proclaiming that he’d won “fair & square,” before the dust had even settled to start looking at an investigation.
They just conceded the election security of the race from the outset, as if they’d decided in advance that they knew they’d lose by cheating, and they didn’t know how to stop it, so they planned in advance to pretend it didn’t happen, rather than explain their spectacular dereliction to the nation.
That race was the worst example of election fraud in American history, and it was done in the wide open, and the Dems did absolutely nothing to stop it or investigate it. This was the one race that Donald Trump absolutely had to win to stay out of prison. He has cheated at literally EVERYTHING in his entire life. Now we are supposed to believe that the one race where his life literally depends on winning, is the one, single instance in his entire life where he decided to play totally by the rules, and NOT cheat.
Please, others may be that stupid, but I’m not.
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First of all, I live in Florida, sooo Conservative region? Yeah.
Trump/Putin/Musk - two of the worst foreign Psychopathic Oligarchs in the world, with infinite access to money and the best and most experienced computer programmers and hackers on the planet, with no loyalty or patriotism towards the United States, teamed up with an American Psychopathic Oligarch wannabe, who also has no loyalty, all viewing America as a big, fat, lazy RICH target to be ruthlessly and mercilessly exploited.
All they had to do was swap the votes for one race, in 7 states. That kind of cheating would be difficult for individual Congressional or Senate races, but not for the presidential race. All that was need was access to the voting machines, and Putin’s hackers have no doubt been working on that for years.
We all saw it happen. Both Trump and Musk had multiple meetings with Putin, by phone and in person, during the Biden administration, and they didn’t try to hide it. It was all reported widely in the media.
And now EVERYTHING that was promised in P2025 is happening, and STILL people want to pretend that it was a fair election.
They told us they were going to steal the election, they did everything they said, the results are exactly what they said they would be, and yet, somehow there are people who still believe that MAGA won fairly.
WTF is WRONG with everybody?
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THEY WON BY CHEATING! If we don’t address that single issue, they will do it worse next time, and he is going to win in 2028 with 98% of the “vote,” and use that to justify ignoring the Constitutional prohibition of a third term.
You can’t reasonably expect to win against a election fraud scheme that has already succeeded once, and is in the process of getting even more streamlined.
You can keep trying to find the people who refused to vote in the most attended election in history, but it will never be enough to outpace vote switching, it only gives them more votes to switch.
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I’ve been following politics since the 60s, so I know what’s going on, too. One thing I’ve learned in life is that you can’t let the guy who is always winning by cheating to continue. It is highly demoralizing to everyone else. It doesn’t help that the cheater usually rubs his ill-gotten wins in everyone’s faces.
They have developed a wide-ranging system of cheating, that just evolves and gets stronger. You will NEVER win an election until you address it. Even if you do manage to win one, they will just use their short period out of power to improve their cheating strategy to win next time, which is exactly what they did between 2020 and 2024.
The system is broken, and it needs to be fixed. Just using the broken system harder is only going to make things worse. When an appliance is acting up, you don’t just pound on it, you fix it properly.
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The Trump/ Putin/ Musk cabal rigged the election, and we ALL know it.
He won EVERY swing state? Puh-leeeze. I’ve got good Critical Thinking Skills, and they have been screeching in my brain ever since Election Day 2024.
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