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I really wonder if leftists really are this brainwashed to parrot such an obviously incorrect narrative. The answer is “yes, they are this brainwashed.”
He has a Trump Vance sign on his fence. Right wing extremism is a real serious problem https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2025/09/thomas-tom-jacob-sanford-michigan-lds-church-shooter-decorated-war-veteran-trump-supporter/
I saw the twin full size American flags on the back of the truck and I instantly pegged him as a MAGA nutter.
It’s really not hard to spot this particular brand of mental illness.
Narcissistic rage
The reports I read said the shooter had trump signs at his house. He’s maga for sure https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/thomas-jacob-sanford-trump-supporter-michigan-grand-blanc-church-shooters-political-affiliation-democrat-or-republican-101759091935370.html
Do you really think a MAGA’t wank stain is going to trust a paper with Hindu in the name?
Lol
He has a Trump/vance sign on his fence https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2025/09/thomas-tom-jacob-sanford-michigan-lds-church-shooter-decorated-war-veteran-trump-supporter/
No way, mass shooters are never on the far right!
The Hindustan Times probably isn’t a trustworthy source. Especially in this political climate, I’d recommend not believing anything you haven’t seen from multiple sources.
MSN reports he has Trump/pence shirt in photo and trump/vance sign
Fair. Also here is that MSN article.
your comment is extra funny when maga folks listen to fox religiously, which is literally a propaganda outlet for trump.
What leftists are shooting right wingers you fucking moron open your goddamn eyes fuck
Bro, the shooter’s truck has two American flags, and his house has a Trump/Vance campaign sign.
You can’t sidestep this one. Sorry. MAGA dealt this one, not leftists
And actually, MOST homicides and mass shootings in the US are caused by right wing nutjobs. Don’t listen to Fox News’ propaganda
Except literally the meme plays out every single time.
Learn how to read yet?
Ok genuinely trying to understand what you’re saying here. You say “narrative” but that implies that someone is writing a story. Can you please be specific?
Someone hasn’t been paying attention to where a vast majority of political violence comes from.
Admittedly did not read the article yet. This is my prediction:
Willing to put money on this being a conservative that is getting revenge on Mormons because of the Kirk killing being in Utah.
Tyler Robinson was raised Mormon so this might very well be the reason.
Hey, let’s maybe wait a bit before even reading anything this time. AP itself is quite trustworthy IMO, but the sources themselves often aren’t - AP reports what it finds out, but they get their data from police, FBI, etc - not a single link in the chain is infallible, which is why it’s best to wait till a bit more is known.
With the Kirk shooter, first he was trans, then he was a groyper, and then later on it turned out he has a trans girlfriend and he was sick of the hate Kirk was spewing. Hell, maybe even THAT isn’t the final version. The first one was super comfy for conservatives to believe, the second version was super comfy for the left to believe, and the final version… Honestly again, sounds a bit too convenient. So we’ll see.
My guess is the dude had some kind of a massive crash out after an argument with his wife.
I come from white trash.
I know how this tends to work.
That being said: total guess, in the sense that I do not have any actual evidence to back up or corroborate this idea.
I will though note that it is odd that… well, with Kirk’s shooter, we hear all about and from family members and roommates/partners, anyone related to the person… because everyone wants this info so as to attempt to create a narrative/motive, whether trying to do this objectively or in an obviously biased way.
This guy?
Maybe I’ve missed it but I’ve not seen or heard a single mention of any LE contacting his family or media outlets getting any statements from amybody he knew.
But this also has not stopped a good chunk of right wing people from doing the most pathetically transparent motivated reasoning I’ve seen in a while.
So it’s the left fault!?!??
/s
In their mind? Yeah? Probably. 🙄
Honestly, I hope they all just take each other out
And again, to the disappointment of the MAGA heads, it is one of theirs, not a leftie.
And he was shooting their own too.
The FBI is leading the investigation and considered it an “act of targeted violence,” said Ruben Coleman, a special agent in charge for the bureau.
Thank goodness it wasn’t a terrorist attack!
The guy hat USA flags on his truck. How could he be a terrorist!?
So a Freedom Attack then
Thomas Jacob Sanford, 40, was identified as the shooter responsible for a mass shooting at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Grand Blanc Township, Michigan, on Sunday, September 28, 2025. Sanford drove his pickup truck into the church, exited the vehicle, and opened fire with an assault rifle on congregants during a service. He also deliberately set fire to the church building. The shooting resulted in the deaths of at least two people, with several others injured. Sanford was killed by law enforcement officers in a shootout at the scene.
Sanford was a US Marine Corps veteran who served in Iraq from 2004 to 2008 and lived in Burton, Michigan. His vehicle was reportedly decorated with two large American flags, and social media posts suggest a possible Trump support sign at his residence, though these affiliations have not been officially confirmed by authorities. The motive for the attack remains under investigation, with searches conducted at his home and examination of his cellphone records. There were also reports of improvised explosive devices found near the church. The incident shocked the community, especially as it occurred shortly after the death of Russell M. Nelson, the longtime president of the church [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10].
Citations: [1] Thomas Sanford a Trump supporter? Big claim on … https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/thomas-jacob-sanford-trump-supporter-michigan-grand-blanc-church-shooters-political-affiliation-democrat-or-republican-101759091935370.html [2] Who is Thomas Sanford? Michigan Mormon church … https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/who-is-thomas-sanford-michigan-grand-blanc-mormon-church-shooting-suspect-identified-as-iraq-war-veteran-101759088332418.html [3] Iraq War veteran Thomas Sanford ID’d as gunman who … https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/iraq-war-veteran-thomas-sanford-idd-as-gunman-who-attacked-grand-blanc-lds-church-killing-2-and-setting-it-ablaze/ [4] Police identify suspect in mass shooting at Grand Blanc … https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2025/09/28/police-identify-suspect-in-mass-shooting-at-grand-blanc-township-church/ [5] Grand Blanc church shooting: What’s known about … https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/michigan-grand-blanc-church-shooting-suspect [6] Live updates: Church attack kills 2, injures 8; suspect … https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/michigan-church-shooting-live-updates-rcna234221 [7] Photos emerge of truck decked out in American flags that … https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/photos-emerge-of-truck-decked-out-in-american-flags-that-gunman-crashed-into-mormon-church-before-shooting/ [8] Live updates: Church shooting and fire in Grand Blanc … https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/church-shooting-fire-michigan-09-28-25 [9] Two killed and eight injured as suspect named in Michigan … https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c62l7x0v5e5t [10] Suspect Identified in Shooting at Mormon Church in Michigan https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/breaking-suspect-identified-shooting-mormon-204305951.html
You probably shouldn’t trust the Hindustan Times, they are not a credible news source
That’s not what your link says, it says mixed, and if you want to talk about bias, why didn’t you also do the same check for all the other sources? Example: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/ Much worse and the factual score is lower.
The link I provided says the Hindustan Times has low credibility and their factual reporting is mixed. The post has medium credibility and mixed factual reporting.
To be perfectly honest, I didn’t check the others because they were all from more mainstream sources. Especially with breaking news, like this story was yesterday, we should all be giving unfamiliar sources extra scrutiny.
If it makes you feel better though I’ll do the rest of them:
- Hindustan Times: mixed factual reporting, low credibility
- New York Post: mixed factual reporting, medium credibility
- ClickOnDetroit: high factual reporting, high credibility
- Fox 2 Detroit: high factual reporting, high credibility
- NBC News: high factual reporting, high credibility
- CNN: mostly factual reporting, medium credibility
- BBC: high factual reporting, high credibility
- Yahoo News: high factual reporting, high credibility
Yes but did you read them? The HT doesn’t fare as bad as the others. Which leads me to believe you singled out the HT because of their brownness or perhaps non-Jeebusness.
"To be perfectly honest, I didn’t check the others because they were all from more mainstream sources. "
Which are all bullshit in many ways…
Which leads me to believe you singled out the HT because of their brownness or perhaps non-Jeebusness.
I singled them out because it was an obscure source and misinformation is rife on the Internet. If you believe I might be secretly a bigot, you are welcome to check my post history, but I promise you, I am not.
Which are all bullshit in many ways…
100% agree. Not a single source on that list, except maybe the bbc would I trust as a single source, and only then if it were about non-political international stories.
Maga on maga violence is trending in 2025.
Damn it, Tylenol!
Mormons have to realize maga evangelicals don’t see them as christians and they’re like #6 on MAGA’s murder lists of targets.
I’ve tried to convince my relatives of this but they will Ernst Röhm themselves right up until the last second because it owns the libs
Don’t forget to pick up your free thoughts and prayers. Now, nearly all of them are 100% made in the US. Looking good, the United States of America. We’re number one in another thing that’s horrible to be ranked high in, around the world.
Thoughts and, ehem, prayers
Oh hell, I wonder if the guy that did this did it because the guy that helped Kirk achieve his objective was Mormon.
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He white?
(Rubbing my eyes with one hand while hanging my head downward) Big sigh. Yeah, he white.
My Mormon mother died about a month ago.
Pity, I cant shove this in her face as evidence that her bigoted dogma was always hypocritical.
