• return2ozma@lemmy.worldOP
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    16 hours ago

    He added about Kirk, “He’s been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that is the environment we are in. You can’t stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place. And that’s the unfortunate environment we are in.”

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      10 hours ago

      It’s incredible that the fellow got fired over such a truthful and insightful comment.

      I was in the US in my late teens, and one thing I realized almost straight away was how shallow American polemics about any socio-political topics were. American “free speech” polemics (among all other polemics) to me seemed like an attempt to act out and engage in theatrics that had nothing to do with the concept of free speech (which is actually an extremely complicated and nuanced topics).

      There is a silver lining to this, I think at least some people (on the margin) might stop treating local polemics as undeniable truth.

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      The media is clearly just corrupt and nothing but a propaganda piece if him saying that is sack worthy. That’s just a well informed statement

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        It’s well informed while being the mildest take imaginable. Doesn’t condone violence, doesn’t do a victory lap, just ever so gently connects one dot to another.

        I would sack someone for using the phrase ‘sort of’ that often though.

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          I’m sure the sort of was cuz he knew he’d get in trouble for stating the obvious and was trying to hedge his language. Like “I didn’t def say x cause y, just that it maybe kind of did”.

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            I’d have done no better, I’m not broadcast ready at all and I’d have been nervous as hell. Just being a snerky jerky internet person, don’t mind me

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          Yeah it was all a very mild and true take. I do agree about the over use of “sort of” as well. Yikes, I realize now it’s really a lot after you pointed that out.

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      16 hours ago

      THAT getting him fired so immediately is all the proof anyone should ever need to never trust commentators from MSNBC again.

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        Never use any nbc. They may position themselves as Democrats, but they are the Democrats that have led us to nominate three awful presidential candidates that have allowed this Republican party to achieve what might now be absolute power soon. They’ve made no secret of their plans to kill the Republican all but name and we still refused to nominate candidates that could save the Republic and stop them.

        This media is the enemy and has been, even if somewhat separate from the enemy controlling the federal government.

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          The Democrats’ stated party strategy, after putting their heads together following the most recent L - is to go more hardcore center. Try to peel votes from Trump by going a little more right. I shit you not, this is what they took away from the last election, about why they lost and what to do about it.

          Democrats are not going to save us.

          (though I acknowledge that for now someone actually decent basically has to pose as a Democrat for any hope of success)