Length and type of hair is what matters. Men with a typical short haircut with straight hair do not benefit from conditioner.
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I nearly lost you there(Also, bring back 90s hair!)
It never left, been rocking waist length hair since the 90s, that guy has short hair compared to me.
Bold of you to assume the top half of my head still grows hair.
It’s mainly to do with longer and seldom cut hair being a lot harder to keep healthy than shorter and often cut hair is.
Being a man or woman doesn’t directly dictate the quality of one’s hair, rather in the current cultural environment it influences how long one’s hair is likely to be allowed to get before it’s cut (and how much it gets cut) which in turn influences how healthy one’s hair naturally is.
Then there’s also the whole concern with one’s external appearence which again in present day culture is also different in average for men and women, with the latter under more social pressure to look well groomed.
Plenty of guys out there with long hair have to go to a lot of trouble to make it look healthy when they actually try to.
As a guy with long curly hair, it is not that simple.
I get natural C curls from just one wash a week, no fuss. truly blessed
also has fuckall to do with gender
The amount of upvotes this boomer shit has is just fucking embarrassing. Gender has absolutely zero impact on hair. It’s all genetics. I’m male and my hair is long and thin as fuck.
Hormones can play a role as well. Anecdotally, my wife’s hair during pregnancy became fuller and less brittle. Duckduckgo “pregnancy hair”. A monthly cycle, being on hormonal birth control, etc. will likely have some effect. I definitely agree that genetics does play a bigger role, but claiming that gender/sex plays no role is definitely incorrect.
Gender has absolutely zero impact on hair.
I used to think this also when I had long, wavy locks. Then met my secret new friend who was hiding away in the back of my genes “male pattern baldness” and now I know that men very much have different hair concerns than most women.
Also, it’s not a joke about gender having an impact on hair, it’s a joke about gendered roles having an impact on hair and how pointless a lot of the gendered expectations and marketed products are. Take a breath and learn the difference.
Cool. Joke is “men dont buy products so they use shit at hand”.
So, still boomer humor based on manufactured gender division. Cool.
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GuyPerson at parties right?If you look for things to be angry about, you’re going to find them. This seems like a silly hill to die on
Coming from a man, Woman’s hair products come across as such a scam.
It’s not about men vs. women, it’s short hair vs. long hair. Most men don’t have long hair, the dish soap works for short hair but depending on your hair type you want to use something better for long hair.
I wash my very long hair 2-3 times a week and often get compliments from women. Many express some variation of “I wish my hair would grow that long” but none of them like the answer. “I do nothing to it. No heat treatments, no bleach, no color, no tight braids, no styling. Shampoo approximately every other day and condition weekly.”
(Dish soap would probably strip the natural oils too aggressively, even for short hair. Rough on the scalp.)
Dish soap on hair is actually awful, leaves it dry, clumped/stuck together, and unmanageable. I got something in my hair when I was under 10, all I remember is it was SO BAD I willingly went to wash my hair.
I have a similar routine to you I don’t blow dry either it is towel dry, except I condition each time I wash, and get the same responses from women who equally do not like the “I wash, condition, and cut it (well its been a few years now but) every 3 months, and do nothing else.”
There’s a lot of nuance to this topic I think. In my (VERY anecdotal) experience men often have thicker hair which tends to be less brittle less quickly. At least that’s my experience as trans woman, around the time my treatment started my hair got slightly thinner and more prone to damage. So it’s probably also a hormonal thing.
Cis man here with long hair. My hair is super thin and breaks like crazy. I went to dermatologist (thought I was going bald lol) and it seems that hair changes a lot between people and some advice I’ve seen online isn’t as general as much as people think, like not washing your hair everyday (she told me my hair NEEDS to be washed everyday cause it gets mega oily quickly).
But yeah, longer hair needs more care for sure, like, I had never used hair conditioner before but now it’s a must, started using a hair drier sometimes too. I used to think that women taking a long time to shower and get ready we’re just slow but fuck, long hair is a lot of work.
Long haired cismale here. I can use the cheapest shower gel and look magnificent.
Hello name sibling! I’m a long haired lady person.
Good for you. My hair is frizzy as fuck and I can tell you there is certainly a difference between a $3 and $12 conditioner.
I feel you. There’s also a huge difference between cheap conditioner and no conditioner.
Water hardness matters a lot, too. When I visit my family and shower with their super soft water, I could use industrial degreaser and my hair would be just fine.
But when I’m at home where the water is super hard? I better use a shampoo without sodium laureth sulfate and condition regularly or my hair will become an uncombable abomination within a few days.
This actually might be the secret! I live in a hard water area but I’ve got a water softener for my hot water in the house. I’ll have to test this out when I visit friends next who don’t have a softener.
My hair is also frizzy as fuck and the only thing that matters is styling gel. Hair care routine is basically meaningless for me, when either washed or unwashed, I get the same frizzy style until I gel up and style my hair.
Long haired woman here: I use dr bronners and no conditioner and it suits my purposes. It does feel nicer with a deep conditioner, but it’s not worth the extra time imo
Possibly the flashy flatulence helps?
i can second this
Him looking magnificent?
sure what else could i have meant
I’m a guy. I’ve had very long hair and very short hair, and everything in between. I’ve always just used regular shampoo whatever generic regular brand I find.
As someone else mentioned it’s more about the styling afterwards. And also the hair type.
Am girl. I don’t find that the kind of shampoos and conditioners really matter. I buy all kinds of volume ones for example, and there’s barely any difference. It’s more the styling that comes after. Getting a haircut that works for your hair helps too
As a man who used to have long hair for decades, this is just wrong. But also, usually using more than one shampoo + one conditioner is not going to make much difference.
As a man with frizzy, dry and curly hair. I have to say “doubt” on the dishwashing liquid.
More like “get that fat-solvant out of my sight, or you’re gonna get it”. No shampoo, only conditioner and you barely rinse it.
Part of the solution is actually not washing your hair too much, or using too much product.
Your scalp naturally produces a lot of oils etc to keep your hair healthy, and shampoo actually removes this to an extent. Conditioner helps, but it’s not the same.
I never expected there were so many other long haired men here secretly dealing with hair issues! I thought I’d been dealing with this alone the last few years since I decided to stop buzzcutting myself. Now I wish we had a more active hair community. Not necessarily male only, as this post seems to show we have “human hair” and not “guy hair” or “girl hair.”
Apple cider vinegar is the trick
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